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77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
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77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Since I started this therapy I have felt worse then before I am tired & Sleepy with bad headaches all day & cannot concentrate.

I have started getting data from my provider & notice that whenever my machine reaches the prescribed pressure the Sense Awake feature triggers within a few minutes & I guess that I wake up & stay on my sense Awake pressure which is considerbly lower till I get back to sleep & then within minutes it triggers sense Awake again & I am awake.
It goes on & on for over 25 to 30 times per night.

I went back to my sleep doctor, who did not even bother to check the machine's data but asked me how i felt with the pressure so I said that i assume that it is too high so he changed the prescription to 8 from 11 . Last Nights data was not any better with the new pressure as even at 8 the same story continued.
Can someone explain what is happening here ? Am I sleeping or not ? I don't usually remember waking up that many times(Maybe 8 to 10 times which is still fairly high per night). Also it does show me prolong periods of lower pressure(Which means that I am awake but I don't remember staying awake for that long).
If i go with that data I get total sleep of any where between 10 minutes to about 50 mintues per night. No wonder why I feel this bad all the time.
(This post was last modified: 10-08-2013 07:15 PM by Realtor 1.)
10-08-2013 07:05 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Hi Realtor 1,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
It seems like I have read that some people have to turn sense-awake off, but hang in there for more suggestions.
Best of luck to you with your CPAP therapy.

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10-08-2013 07:13 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
I can't understand what's happening either. Never heard of sense awake.

I suggest you get a new doctor, one who is willing to explain to you what the data means.

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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Hi Realtor 1
If I,m not mistaken, SenseAwake feature can be turned off
Clinical manual for the Icon series is available via Email , scroll down to section three (other manuals)
http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-pr...tup-manual

Icon setup video http://vimeo.com/20560260
Latest version of SleepyHead supports the Icon machines
10-08-2013 07:16 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
(10-08-2013 07:13 PM)Sleepster Wrote:  Never heard of sense awake.
Hi Sleepster
SensAwake - Responsive Pressure Relief
http://www.fphcare.com.au/sleep-apnea/cl...sensawake/
10-08-2013 07:20 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
It is a great feature at least on the paper.
I will try to turn it off tonite and see if it will help me.
I would love to know how other users of this machine are doing with this feature .
I did download Sleepy Head last night but it does not recognize the Sensawake feature.
Is there any machine out there which can really detect your actual sleep time. The other night I slept for 10 minutes but the data showed the actual amount of time when the machine was on which was 7 hrs +.
10-08-2013 07:51 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Unfortunately, short of essentially a full sleep study with EEG connections, there really is no way to tell if you are truly asleep or not. There can be some obvious clues (which is what I would guess "sense awake" keys on), but only an EEG can tell in the general case.

It does sound like what is happening is that somehow you are triggering the sense awake when just at/after you fall asleep, which then lowers the pressure, which then stops being effective therapy and allows OSA events, which then truly does wake you up. I would echo previous suggestions to try with that feature turned off.
10-08-2013 08:03 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Realtor1,

The on/off setting for sensawake will show up on the first menu right after the Data dot IF it is turn on in the clinical menu. It will show sensawake symbol if it is enabled otherwise it show the wrench
Symbol.
To access the clinical menu hold the center button while you turn the outer dial more then 180 degrees. The clinical menu will pop up. I think itis the fourth dot clockwise to set the sensawake viewing. The sensawake symbol will show. Then by pushing the center button it will enable viewing on the first menu.
It's not something I would want enables without being able to turn it off. I used it for my first 2 nights because I thought it would be good. Not.. 43 days later I do not miss it.
10-08-2013 08:12 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Keep with it, Realtor 1. The first few weeks for me were bad, I got less sleep instead of more. Eventually I started having some good days, and those days eventually got more frequent. Looking back, it's been almost two years and my life is different now. Much less stress, and lots of other good benefits, too.

Remember, you are fighting for your life. Without CPAP therapy we live a miserable sleep-deprived life and die early of a heart attack or stroke. With CPAP therapy we can lead a normal life. It just takes some of us a lot longer to adapt than others, but in the end it's worth it.

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10-08-2013 08:41 PM
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RE: 77 days into Therapy & I don't think I am sleeping with CPAP at all.
Thanks everyone!
I do have a severe Insomnia problem. I do not snore & never had anything which was a sign of an Apnea. I went for a sleep test as in June I could not sleep for 4 continuous days and they found out that I have a very severe Apnea issue of 49.5.
I have been diligently using the machine on nightly basis. The Ahi has dropped to under 6 but then again the worst nights are the nights I am not sleeping at all or not more then a few minutes . Like the other night when I slept for 10 minutes the AHI was .06.
10-08-2013 09:06 PM
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