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Machine: Resmed S9 Vpap ST
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 17.8/12.4
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: Hell's Half Acre, Piedmont Plain, NC

Post: #11
RE: 90%
Thanks so much, Vaughn! your reply, clear and well-written, alleviated my concern. Btw, I have noted in the past that the S9 provides spontaneous data, and my breathing, both in and out, usually ranges in the upper 90's, and only falls lower if there are large leaks. I haven't determined how or when the spon info might be put to use, but I generally sleep 8-10 hrs/night, and over the past year my therapy has reduced the ahi factor from high moderate readings to fairly steady mild results under 10. This certainly doesn't put me in the gold medal range, but my condition has really improved on a personal level, and that means a great deal to me. Jim
06-19-2016 02:35 PM
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nativedancer Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 118
Joined: Mar 2015

Machine: Resmed S9 Vpap ST
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 17.8/12.4
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
Location: Hell's Half Acre, Piedmont Plain, NC

Post: #12
RE: 90%
Vaughn -- is there a recommended pressure support range in the st mode? should my 5.2 be less or more? Prolly a dumb question, but these are the things that drive me crazy. Doc had me at 2O/12 originally, but that was a bit much, made for numerous leaks. Thanks always, Jim
06-20-2016 06:43 PM
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Machine: S9 VPAP Adapt (USA Model# 36007, not better 36037 or 36067)
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F10 or SimPlus w/ 2Liners. MirageQuatro & Gecko gel pad
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 15 EPAP, PS 5-10
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: Marfan Syndrome, chronic bradycardia, occasional Cheyne-Stokes Respiration

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Location: California, USA

Post: #13
RE: 90%
(06-20-2016 06:43 PM)nativedancer Wrote:  is there a recommended pressure support range in the st mode? should my 5.2 be less or more? ... Doc had me at 20/12 originally, but that was a bit much, made for numerous leaks.

Hi nativedancer,

If you don't already own one and can afford it, I recommend buying a recording pulse oximeter to use to optimize how much Pressure Support (PS) you are using. (No prescription is needed, and the kind which is worn like a wrist watch with separate finger sensor cup is more comfortable to wear all night.) I think that it is important that the PS not be too high or too low, and that your prescribed PS of 8 may be too high and your present PS of 5.2 is likely too low.

If the PS is high (like 8) and if we have normal healthy lungs, the high PS would be doing for us the great majority of the work of breathing. (For example, my ASV machine is able to automatically quickly adjust PS as high as necessary whenever I start to have a central apnea; when I'm breathing normally it stays at its Min PS setting around 5, but when I stop breathing PS raises itself to around 9 or 10 in order to do for me all the work of breathing.)

The higher the setting for PS, the more deeply we will tend to breathe in all night, and the higher will tend to be our average Tidal Volume (TV, the volume of air breathed each breath) and Minute Volume (MV, the volume of air breathed each minute, which is simply the average Tidal Volume times the number of breaths per minute).

If our PS setting is raised, this would tend to raise the average amount of Oxygen (O2) in our blood, because we will be breathing more deeply. However, I think it is possible to have too much O2 in our blood.

On a standard ST machine (unlike on an ASV machine) the PS does not self adjust and if it is set low, like 5, it is likely our blood O2 saturation may be dropping to 88% or lower during the times we are having central events.

If our blood O2 saturation percentage (SpO2) is 98% or higher almost all of the night, I suspect it may be too high, causing unnecessarily higher oxidative stress (more prevalent creation of free radicals), leading to long term health problems and perhaps also interfering with medications we may be taking.

Regarding the average SpO2, not counting the occasional dips which occur during apnea events, I think an average SpO2 of around 94% to 96% would be ideal if we don't have COPD. For some types of COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) it is very dangerous to have high SpO2 and a safer target for SpO2 may be 89% to 91%.

Take care,
--- Vaughn

Membership in the Advisory Member group should not be understood as in any way implying medical expertise or qualification for advising Sleep Apnea patients concerning their treatment. The Advisory Member group provides advice and suggestions to Apnea Board administrators and staff on matters concerning Apnea Board operation and administrative policies - not on matters concerning treatment for Sleep Apnea. I think it is now too late to change the name of the group but I think Voting Member group would perhaps have been a more descriptive name for the group.
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06-26-2016 01:49 PM
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