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A dream about to become true?
#1
someone just sent me the link below.

http://www.fundairing.com/journal/2015/4...pap-device

Wouldn't that be a dream come true?
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#2
(06-03-2015, 08:50 AM)Mich Wrote: someone just sent me the link below.

http://www.fundairing.com/journal/2015/4...pap-device

Wouldn't that be a dream come true?

Except that it's not possible, it would be very cool.

Just for comparison, a normal CPAP machine requires a 100Ah deep cycle battery, physically, a little bigger than what starts your car.

There's no way this thing works unless it contains a power cell from the future.
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(06-03-2015, 09:57 AM)Terry Wrote:
(06-03-2015, 08:50 AM)Mich Wrote: someone just sent me the link below.

http://www.fundairing.com/journal/2015/4...pap-device

Wouldn't that be a dream come true?

Except that it's not possible, it would be very cool.

Just for comparison, a normal CPAP machine requires a 100Ah deep cycle battery, physically, a little bigger than what starts your car.

There's no way this thing works unless it contains a power cell from the future.
Flux Capacitor. Proven tech I saw it in a movie.
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(06-03-2015, 10:11 AM)Mark Douglas Wrote:
(06-03-2015, 09:57 AM)Terry Wrote:
(06-03-2015, 08:50 AM)Mich Wrote: someone just sent me the link below.

http://www.fundairing.com/journal/2015/4...pap-device

Wouldn't that be a dream come true?

Except that it's not possible, it would be very cool.

Just for comparison, a normal CPAP machine requires a 100Ah deep cycle battery, physically, a little bigger than what starts your car.

There's no way this thing works unless it contains a power cell from the future.
Flux Capacitor. Proven tech I saw it in a movie.
[Image: FluxCapacitor2.jpg]

I went to their page and read in their blog that it will be powered by a zinc-air battery? I do not know anything about that. Here is the page describing how it is powered:

http://www.fundairing.com/journal/

Thanks for checking into that for us, Mark.
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#5
Biggest issue I see is the lack of humidifier. You're going to have to sacrifice a lot of features to get that form factor.
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#6
Even if micro flow pumps and the zinc air battery work, the unit is being designed to be disposable. No recharging battery or blower. Use it one night, pick up a new one. Care to guess what that might cost?
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(06-03-2015, 01:50 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: Even if micro flow pumps and the zinc air battery work, the unit is being designed to be disposable. No recharging battery or blower. Use it one night, pick up a new one. Care to guess what that might cost?

I do not venture to guess. I wish someone came up with nose pads/pillows that lasted at least a year! Smile I guess Resmed and the other cpap providers are not interested because it would cut into their profits.
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#8
It is the material. Silicone, that thin, being used night after night, can't last that long. It has to be flexible enough to fit our face/nostrils. It has to be safe enough to touch our skin (or even mucous membranes in the case of pillows). And it has to be stiff enough to not flap outward with each exhale when we breathe (for FFM and masks).

But as for the Airing, I call bull crap. It just is not possible. And a Google search on the zinc-air battery makes me believe they are full of even more bull.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc%E2%80%93air_battery

Quote:Large zinc–air batteries, with capacities up to 2,000 ampere–hours per cell, are used to power navigation instruments and marker lights, oceanographic experiments and railway signals.

Primary cells are made in button format to about 1 Ah. Prismatic shapes for portable devices are manufactured with capacities between 5 and 30 Ah. Hybrid cell cathodes include manganese dioxide to allow high peak currents.

Button cells are highly effective, but it is difficult to extend the same construction to larger sizes due to air diffusion performance, heat dissipation, and leakage problems. Prismatic and cylindrical cell designs address these problems. Stacking prismatic cells requires air channels in the battery and may require a fan to force air through the stack.
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(06-03-2015, 08:37 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote: It is the material. Silicone, that thin, being used night after night, can't last that long. It has to be flexible enough to fit our face/nostrils. It has to be safe enough to touch our skin (or even mucous membranes in the case of pillows). And it has to be stiff enough to not flap outward with each exhale when we breathe (for FFM and masks).

But as for the Airing, I call bull crap. It just is not possible. And a Google search on the zinc-air battery makes me believe they are full of even more bull.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc%E2%80%93air_battery

Quote:Large zinc–air batteries, with capacities up to 2,000 ampere–hours per cell, are used to power navigation instruments and marker lights, oceanographic experiments and railway signals.

Primary cells are made in button format to about 1 Ah. Prismatic shapes for portable devices are manufactured with capacities between 5 and 30 Ah. Hybrid cell cathodes include manganese dioxide to allow high peak currents.

Button cells are highly effective, but it is difficult to extend the same construction to larger sizes due to air diffusion performance, heat dissipation, and leakage problems. Prismatic and cylindrical cell designs address these problems. Stacking prismatic cells requires air channels in the battery and may require a fan to force air through the stack.

I agree with you that the silicone is way too thin to last too long. However, I hope someday some engineer with sleep apnea can come up with a way to custom make the c-pap mask/pad/pillows so it will last a long time.

Thank you for your input on those zinc-air batteries.
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