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RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable
(04-06-2013 07:39 PM)okiegal61 Wrote:  I downloaded the sleephead software, have not opened it yet, but I read something about a patch. Where would I find that?

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RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable - Maybe - NOT SO FAST
(03-28-2013 11:06 AM)Cobra4x4 Wrote:  I'm so happy, I finally achieved a perfect nights sleep according to my S9 Autoset data.

I finally got a chin strap and together with my newer Wisp mask I finally got an AHI reading of 0.0

I am quickly learning that apparently even If your AHI is supposedly 0.0 it doesn't seem to take into account the occurrence of CENTRAL apnea. The readings I'm getting seem to indicate that they are listed separately. So even on nights when I have a low AHI, the central index seems unrelated. Can anyone confirm this? I know I might be reading it wrong.
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Post: #23
RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable
No, the AHI includes all apnea events (central, obstructive, unknown) as well as hypopneas. The Autoset includes all of them in the data.

If you are looking at the onscreen sleep quality report, it may have them divided up to indicate what you had.

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Post: #24
RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable - Maybe - NOT SO FAST
(03-29-2013 10:53 AM)Ugly Wrote:  I think my stats are AHI 0.4; AI 0.4; CAI 0.1

(04-06-2013 11:09 PM)Ugly Wrote:  I am quickly learning that apparently even If your AHI is supposedly 0.0 it doesn't seem to take into account the occurrence of CENTRAL apnea. The readings I'm getting seem to indicate that they are listed separately. So even on nights when I have a low AHI, the central index seems unrelated.

Hi Sean,

Rounding error can sometimes make it look like the AHI does not include the CAI, but I think the AHI reported by the ResMed S9 series machines includes all apneas and hypopneas, of whatever type.

For example, if the reported statistics were AHI 0.4; AI 0.4; CAI 0.1, it may look like the AHI includes only the obstructive AI and not the CAI.

But the full detail may have been Apnea Hypopnea Index 0.44 (rounded to 0.4); Obstructive Apnea Index 0.36 (rounded to 0.4); Central Apnea Index 0.08 (rounded to 0.1), Hypopnea Index 0.0; Unknown type Apnea Index 0.0

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Post: #25
RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable
S9 AutoSet and Elite Only

I don,t normally have all types of apnea in one night but here is an example to illustrate the point

Obstructive = 0.4
Central = 0.1
Unknown = 0.0
Hpopnea Index = 0.4

Apnea Index (Obstructive + Central + Unknown)
Apnea Index = 0.4 + 0.1 + 0.0 = 0.5

AHI = Apnea Index + Hyponea Index
AHI = 0.5 + 0.4
AHI = 0.9
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RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable - Maybe - NOT SO FAST
(04-07-2013 02:03 AM)vsheline Wrote:  For example, if the reported statistics were AHI 0.4; AI 0.4; CAI 0.1, it may look like the AHI includes only the obstructive AI and not the CAI.

But the full detail may have been Apnea Hypopnea Index 0.44 (rounded to 0.4); Obstructive Apnea Index 0.36 (rounded to 0.4); Central Apnea Index 0.08 (rounded to 0.1),

This behavior is the source of the quip
"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2". Too-funny

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Post: #27
RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable
Tried to instal the SleepyHead program, and patch, Kind of Challenged in this area, Oh-jeez

It said to replace this "patch" file the the standatd .exe directory, or something like that..

mmm , not sure what to do here.

Thanks for you help.
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Says mingwm10.dll file was not found, when I tried to open patch .exe what ever it was. , that file is there. I was able to open the program before I installed the patch, and its said no data, and I tried to import it,
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Post: #29
RE: AHI 0.0 is achievable
You need to be computer savvy enough to know how to find the executable file and replace it with the patch. Do you have any experience copying and pasting files from one folder to another on your hard drive? If so, that's what you have to do in this case.

Maybe you have a neighbor or friend who can do it for you? It takes less than one minute to do, so it's not like you're asking for a HUGE favor.

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I know how to copy and paste files. I guess I will uninstall both, and try to re-install them in the next couple days. Maybe I was not paying attention on what to do to get it working. Thanks for you help. Hope I am not bothering you, I dont want to be a pain, I have learned so much here. I will let you know if I get it working, I am sure, I will have more questions if I do, and also, more questions, if I cant get it working.

Again, Thanks for you help Sleepster !
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