So if your AHI went up, mostly due to higher pressure causing CAs (many of which may be false positives) it does not clear up the issue of why your S9 wants the pressure higher, now that it has the ability to change pressure, supposedly in your best interests.
Was this a change you made that was recommended by your sleep doc? If you were given an Autoset, it probably takes a sleep doc to decide to set this (an APAP) at straight 10 (bricking it to CPAP mode), but that may be a first or second step after the sleep test.
For instance, I had a home study with an untreated AHI of 55.7. The original setting from that was 5-20. I then had a full study with titration months later, and was recommended a straight 8 after that. The original no-CPAP home test was mostly OA, no CA at all, and a few hypopneas, indicating that OA was my primary issue. I get CAs twice what I get for OAs now in therapy, and total AHI is regularly below 3. So it appears that the XPAP itself is invoking the CAs for the most part.
It is only a guess, but I think restricting the XPAP to CPAP is an attempt to lower the CA numbers, which as Vaughn says, can increase as pressure goes up, and/or if EPR is set too low. There are two problems with that, however, which is that CPAP may not be as comfortable or as easy to comply with, and it will never titrate you and find your optimum pressure while restricted to just operating as a CPAP.
If you had a home study or a full sleep study that diagnosed you originally, (no XPAP at the time) what range did you fall in?
Going from a straight pressure to an APAP range seems to be done for one or both of two reasons; find a more-comfortable pressure, or find a more-optimum pressure via the inherent titration this provides.
If you made the recent change of your own volition I think few of us would have a problem with that, and many think the informed patient is a bit more invested in trying to adjust to improve numbers (or comfort/compliance) than most sleep docs are; they seem to be motivated to collect copays and insurance reimbursements for sleep studies and office visits, while we are more motivated to get the best treatment by titrating our own pressures.
But were this my experience, I would have a lot of questions for the sleep doc regarding why the machine is doing this.
All my exploits are approved by my doctor. All my sleep studies where in a sleep lab(quite nice actually). The initial study produced an AHI of 86.2 without any REM sleep. The Sleep Tech told me after my titration study that the best setting he found was at 8cmH2O. He said I started throwing CA's if he raised it any higher. My doctor wanted my S9 set to 10cmH2O without EPR initially. Now that I have some data under my belt with the initial setting my doctor approved me adjusting it. I have been furnishing him weekly sleep reports. I just wanted to see what life was like at 8cmH2O and have the additional kick if needed. Also, to answer another question; I am a side sleeper.
Sounds like you have created the proper framework to get his info regarding the results of this change.
It also seems like the titration revealed why higher pressure is not recommended and why you are getting more CAs, which is somewhat typical, and apparently a factor in your individual case.
We probably should not minimize that from 86 to 3 is a pretty good result for the therapy.
It will be interesting to see how he answers these questions.
How are you "furnishing weekly sleep reports"?
12-26-2014, 09:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-27-2014, 11:48 AM by vsheline.)
(12-26-2014, 08:25 PM)sgearhart Wrote: The Sleep Tech told me after my titration study that the best setting he found was at 8cmH2O. He said I started throwing CA's if he raised it any higher. My doctor wanted my S9 set to 10cmH2O without EPR initially. Now that I have some data under my belt with the initial setting my doctor approved me adjusting it.
Were you using ERP?
Turning EPR lower or off sometimes helps to lower number of CA events.
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(12-27-2014, 10:30 AM)sgearhart Wrote: Looks like I going to have to constrain it ...
you mean like 8 to 10.5 with ramp of 30 minutes?
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