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Post: #31
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I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about the dental appliance for sleep apnea. I've been using it every night since I got it back in October of last year. I have to say that I felt a lot better before I was ever diagnosed! My stamina is terrible! Is it possible the appliance could be making the apnea worse? The dentist says no way. He insists my sleep tests show the apnea reduced as I have already said. I just find it difficult to believe I don't feel better using the applaince, at least somewhat. Huh

PS I am scheduled for my sleep study Saturday night.
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Post: #32
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if you have not had a sleepstudy yet, what is the dentist using as evidence they are better? how bad was the apnea to start with, and how much improved is it?

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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum
Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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Post: #33
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(04-21-2016 05:45 PM)Mike208 Wrote:  PS I am scheduled for my sleep study Saturday night.
With or without the oral appliance in place?

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Post: #34
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(04-21-2016 08:44 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  if you have not had a sleepstudy yet, what is the dentist using as evidence they are better? how bad was the apnea to start with, and how much improved is it?

I have had a study. That's how I was first diagnosed. This one is to see if anything has changed, and I'm hoping to see if bipap would be any better than cpap.
(04-22-2016 12:00 AM)robysue Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 05:45 PM)Mike208 Wrote:  PS I am scheduled for my sleep study Saturday night.
With or without the oral appliance in place?

The doctor told me bring it.
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Post: #35
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Interesting note. I have been feeling the lack of good sleep for sometime. Some days are worse than others even using the dental appliance. Last night I decided to go without it. I can't say how much I slept but I remember dreaming on several occasions. Today I still feel it but not quite as bad. Now, that puzzles me.
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Post: #36
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Do you know what your dental device is called? Just curious. I have an "NTI tss plus" which is perhaps not what you are talking about, since I have it to prevent clenching and grinding my teeth. But my point is that I wear it WITH my CPAP. So unless you eventually discover that your dental device is really harming you, it can possibly be used in conjunction with an XPAP system, and provide additional benefits.
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Post: #37
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(04-22-2016 05:23 PM)BadGoodDeb Wrote:  Do you know what your dental device is called? Just curious. I have an "NTI tss plus" which is perhaps not what you are talking about, since I have it to prevent clenching and grinding my teeth. But my point is that I wear it WITH my CPAP. So unless you eventually discover that your dental device is really harming you, it can possibly be used in conjunction with an XPAP system, and provide additional benefits.

Sorry, I was not aware I had a response. My appliance is the pink Respire from Whole You. The doc said the perfect situation for me would be to use it along with the CPAP.
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I had my sleep study last Saturday. I almost walked out because the tech said she knew nothing about trying the bilevel. I had talked to the doc about it before the study and, as far as I knew, it was going to be tested. But it wasn't. I got the results today. They want me to go on CPAP again with a pressure of 10. She said that after I was put on it during the test I was in REM sleep and had almost no events with oxygen saturation at 97%. I told her about what the doc and I had discussed concerning the bilevel. It was not tried because there was no need. I told her about the previous experiences and my fighting to breathe. She suggested adding something to the CPAP that will turn it into a bilevel. I can't recall what she called it. But it will drop the pressure when I exhale. So, I agreed to try it again. I'm hoping that it works and I can get accustomed to it.
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Post: #39
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(04-27-2016 07:54 PM)Mike208 Wrote:  I had my sleep study last Saturday. I almost walked out because the tech said she knew nothing about trying the bilevel. I had talked to the doc about it before the study and, as far as I knew, it was going to be tested. But it wasn't. I got the results today. They want me to go on CPAP again with a pressure of 10. She said that after I was put on it during the test I was in REM sleep and had almost no events with oxygen saturation at 97%. I told her about what the doc and I had discussed concerning the bilevel. It was not tried because there was no need. I told her about the previous experiences and my fighting to breathe. She suggested adding something to the CPAP that will turn it into a bilevel. I can't recall what she called it. But it will drop the pressure when I exhale. So, I agreed to try it again. I'm hoping that it works and I can get accustomed to it.

With ResMed machines that is called EPR (repertory pressure relief - or something like that). You can set it to make it easier to exhale, it defines the reduction in pressure during exhaling.

That is a two edged sword, and and help you exhale, but can also impact treatment of some forms of Events.

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(04-27-2016 08:08 PM)FrankNichols Wrote:  
(04-27-2016 07:54 PM)Mike208 Wrote:  I had my sleep study last Saturday. I almost walked out because the tech said she knew nothing about trying the bilevel. I had talked to the doc about it before the study and, as far as I knew, it was going to be tested. But it wasn't. I got the results today. They want me to go on CPAP again with a pressure of 10. She said that after I was put on it during the test I was in REM sleep and had almost no events with oxygen saturation at 97%. I told her about what the doc and I had discussed concerning the bilevel. It was not tried because there was no need. I told her about the previous experiences and my fighting to breathe. She suggested adding something to the CPAP that will turn it into a bilevel. I can't recall what she called it. But it will drop the pressure when I exhale. So, I agreed to try it again. I'm hoping that it works and I can get accustomed to it.

With ResMed machines that is called EPR (repertory pressure relief - or something like that). You can set it to make it easier to exhale, it defines the reduction in pressure during exhaling.

That is a two edged sword, and and help you exhale, but can also impact treatment of some forms of Events.


That's it. Thank you. I go in the morning to get the machine. I'm hoping this will make it easier for me to use it. By the way, even though I check the box for receiving notification of new replies I don't get them.
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