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After 5 years of successful cpap use
I have been successfully using cpap for over 5 years. Prior to using cpap I would jerk awake to gasp for air. I wake and then gasp.A horrible feeling.
My AHI is usually 1-3. This past week I have woken up a couple of times early in the morning not breathing and I gasp for breath. It is like everything just shut down.
My machine did not register any central apenas so what is up? Any ideas? I might add I am having arrhythmia problems which is new.

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09-08-2014 10:36 AM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
Could be something else Webbie. If it continues talk to your friendly go-to Doc person. It could also be nothing. I have had a couple of occasions where I woke up suddenly feeling like I could not breath. Turned out it was because for some reason I decided to take a nice cleansing breath through my mouth and there was this wind tunnel thing going on that in my sleep I forgot about.
09-08-2014 11:14 AM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
Pressure requirements change with age. Plus, is your machine 5 years old?
Five years is sort of end-of-life for a machine.
If it's been 5 years since your last sleep study, then may be time for another study.

Do you have a cardiologist? Should have a workup to determine degree and type of rhythm problems.
A-fib is sometimes found in apnea patients. A cardio doc might control rhythm with meds like a beta blocker or?; and for A-fib, a blood thinner.

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09-08-2014 11:39 AM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
Hello,
antihypertensive drugs may also cause such symptoms as I had experienced some time ago. If I was startled, I measured a heart rate at 32 - 30. The doctor did not believe me until he saw my printout. He took away the evening beta blocker, then it was ok.

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09-08-2014 11:46 AM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
I too think it's time for a sleep doc check in at least. Could be a random event, but the timing suggests it's about time for a new fresh look at your data - by yourself if you wish to dig deep for a few weeks/months, or a new study if you want it a bit faster, and to make sure nothing else is going on.

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09-08-2014 11:51 AM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
Long time dealing with Afib PVCs super fast heart rates super low heart rates over close to two decades.

Ton of things can cause irregular heartbeats. Your electrolyte levels could be off, extra stress can bring on pvc or afib if you have it.

Even blood pressure meds like calcium channel blockers can have a causal affect to getting Afib with years of use.

Afib is hard to find because it only shows up on tests when its actually happening. Most of the time you just get very tired all at once and at least in my case my pulse slows. Cant feel Afib in your pulse. 48 hr or longer holter monitor is usually what it takes to first diagnose afib unless you just get lucky and happen to be at the doc or ER when its happening.

There is one drug that if you want a pm i will caution you against. Its not used a lot but when it is as it was on me you can take it for several years and then have it backfire, set up a dangerous rythem of its own and there is nothing to be done about it for 5 days until the drug gets out of your system.

Id see a cardiologist but most arrhythmia like PVCs are harmless just a pain to live with. But Afib is dangerous and needs to be ruled out or put you on blood thinner of some kind.
09-08-2014 11:55 AM
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(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)Ghost1958 Wrote:  Long time dealing with Afib PVCs super fast heart rates super low heart rates over close to two decades.

Ton of things can cause irregular heartbeats. Your electrolyte levels could be off, extra stress can bring on pvc or afib if you have it.

Even blood pressure meds like calcium channel blockers can have a causal affect to getting Afib with years of use.

Afib is hard to find because it only shows up on tests when its actually happening. Most of the time you just get very tired all at once and at least in my case my pulse slows. Cant feel Afib in your pulse. 48 hr or longer holter monitor is usually what it takes to first diagnose afib unless you just get lucky and happen to be at the doc or ER when its happening.

There is one drug that if you want a pm i will caution you against. Its not used a lot but when it is as it was on me you can take it for several years and then have it backfire, set up a dangerous rythem of its own and there is nothing to be done about it for 5 days until the drug gets out of your system.

Id see a cardiologist but most arrhythmia like PVCs are harmless just a pain to live with. But Afib is dangerous and needs to be ruled out or put you on blood thinner of some kind.

Interesting information. I see an Electophysiologist on Sept 19. I do have symptomatic bigeminy which is mostly constant and getting worse. The beta blocker is not working like they hoped. Already wore the Holter monitor for 48 hours.
LOL I have heard PVCs are harmless but they sure do make life difficult. I can't even go to the store anymore with out nearly passing out.


I was wondering if all that could be causing my gasping for breath events. I do know that during a run of bigeminy I do feel a catch in my breathing. Might be happening in my sleep.

My cpap machine is brand new. So like you all suggested I might need a new sleep study.

Thank you all for your answers.
09-08-2014 12:09 PM
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RE: After 5 years of successful cpap use
(09-08-2014 12:09 PM)Webbie73 Wrote:  
(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)Ghost1958 Wrote:  Long time dealing with Afib PVCs super fast heart rates super low heart rates over close to two decades.

Ton of things can cause irregular heartbeats. Your electrolyte levels could be off, extra stress can bring on pvc or afib if you have it.

Even blood pressure meds like calcium channel blockers can have a causal affect to getting Afib with years of use.

Afib is hard to find because it only shows up on tests when its actually happening. Most of the time you just get very tired all at once and at least in my case my pulse slows. Cant feel Afib in your pulse. 48 hr or longer holter monitor is usually what it takes to first diagnose afib unless you just get lucky and happen to be at the doc or ER when its happening.

There is one drug that if you want a pm i will caution you against. Its not used a lot but when it is as it was on me you can take it for several years and then have it backfire, set up a dangerous rythem of its own and there is nothing to be done about it for 5 days until the drug gets out of your system.

Id see a cardiologist but most arrhythmia like PVCs are harmless just a pain to live with. But Afib is dangerous and needs to be ruled out or put you on blood thinner of some kind.

Interesting information. I see an Electophysiologist on Sept 19. I do have symptomatic bigeminy which is mostly constant and getting worse. The beta blocker is not working like they hoped. Already wore the Holter monitor for 48 hours.
LOL I have heard PVCs are harmless but they sure do make life difficult. I can't even go to the store anymore with out nearly passing out.


I was wondering if all that could be causing my gasping for breath events. I do know that during a run of bigeminy I do feel a catch in my breathing. Might be happening in my sleep.

My cpap machine is brand new. So like you all suggested I might need a new sleep study.

Thank you all for your answers.

LOL yep ive been bi tri and way beyond that with PVCs many times. Since I started Cpap that has went away except for once that was a drug interaction between BP meds.
The PVCs can cause you to catch your breath, and if your having OAs etc could cause them to get worse.

Now youll probably blow this off as so much voodoo like I did for 20 years but here are some things you can do to get rid of PVCs if no Afib is present.
NO caffeine. Period.
Try drinking electrolyte containing drinks like Gatorade etc.
I dont know what meds your on other than betas but betas, and a host of other bp meds and such can cause a partial AV node block. Which can cause PVCs as it slows the signal from Atriums to Ventricles tossing things a bit out of sync. Might look into that.

Also having been there also and got the t shirt if you can avoid a cardiac ablation, do so. Its very tempting to have it to get rid of the PVCs because they are a pain in the butt to live with.
But the procedure isnt as simple as they make it out to be nor as low risk as they make it out to be. It can result in your being totally pacemaker dependent if they ablate near the wrong spot. That didnt happen to me.

They can also puncture your heart wall with a probe, cause bleeding into the pericardial sac around your heart. That did happen to me during mineOh-jeez and oh its just tons of fun when it happens.

What looked like a ice pick with a small garden hose on the end slammed in your chest, plumbed up like some maniacal plumber got hold of you for about five days while the pump blood from around your heart so it wont stop. It was such funLaugh-a-lot I dont know if they got the janitor to do mine that day or whatDont-know

Good luck with the apena and the PVCs. Smile
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