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Post: #101
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
I've never had problems with my P10 mask. Of course I order a new mask every 90 days as insurance allows, and wash the entire mask once a week, paying special attention to the vented area with a soft baby toothbrush.

I think it's important that you don't handle or touch the vents too much, as you are probably depositing oils from your hands on it.

Also have to wonder if there were a real problem with this mask, wouldn't ResMed have pulled it by now? It is one of the most popular masks out there.

Just my 2 cents. Coffee

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07-20-2015 07:45 AM
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Post: #102
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
(07-20-2015 04:11 AM)mzdawn74 Wrote:  Do you think this mask is clogged? How can I tell if I'm getting all of the exhaled air out and not re-breathing it along with CO2?

The post some pages back has good advice using the sleepyhead software.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid117216

As for mine - was still blocked last night, so washed it again and hung it up to dry
It was better but still restricting the exhale. Hopefully soon I can go back to it.
(This post was last modified: 07-20-2015 07:58 PM by alby_c.)
07-20-2015 07:58 PM
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Post: #103
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
(07-20-2015 07:58 PM)alby_c Wrote:  
(07-20-2015 04:11 AM)mzdawn74 Wrote:  Do you think this mask is clogged? How can I tell if I'm getting all of the exhaled air out and not re-breathing it along with CO2?

The post some pages back has good advice using the sleepyhead software.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid117216

As for mine - was still blocked last night, so washed it again and hung it up to dry
It was better but still restricting the exhale. Hopefully soon I can go back to it.

My machine is not fully data capable, so I can't use Sleepyhead.
07-20-2015 11:59 PM
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Post: #104
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
I am doing a very simple test. With the mask off the machine, I am putting it on, taking a breath through the mouth, and with the end of the hose blocked with my thumb, trying to breathe out through the nose. If I have to push like blowing up a balloon, then it is not working like it was before and so is not going to work while I sleep. i.e. if it can't cope with my breath, without the extra from from the machine, it will never cope with both.

I must admit, after using the P10, I have backed off the strap pressure on the swift fx and it is working nicely now, except for the blast of cold air.

Unfortunately I do not have a health insurer that replaces this for me so any new gear I buy is out of my own pocket, (There are enough rage threads over the state of CPAP gear costs in Australia - suffice to say I buy online from US suppliers) so a mask I can only expect to use for 3 months is a very poor investment.
As much as I liked the P10, (And i do love it when it works) unless it comes right very soon, I plan to abandon it.

I will not be endlessly buying new ones of something I should get a year or 2 from at least. Annoyed-and-disappointed
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2015 09:18 PM by alby_c.)
07-21-2015 09:12 PM
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Post: #105
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
Genius test! (re-reading the thread, I see that test has been suggested all along. I should have tried it earlier!)

And now I see that mine is 90% blocked too. That's why it felt different, after the first month. I'm on month 3. One side is completely blocked; the other is 80% blocked, but will let air out if I exhale very hard. That isn't going to happen while I'm asleep, now, is it?!

Bother. Have we tried soaking in vinegar or stuff like that? Have people called the manufacturer? My supplier just hemmed and hawed and said it isn't due to be replaced till 6 months. I switched back to my Swift LT mask last night. I'll have to look at my Sleepyhead results. Haven't looked at them since week 2.
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07-22-2015 11:20 AM
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Post: #106
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
(07-20-2015 07:45 AM)OpalRose Wrote:  I've never had problems with my P10 mask. Of course I order a new mask every 90 days as insurance allows, and wash the entire mask once a week, paying special attention to the vented area with a soft baby toothbrush.

I think it's important that you don't handle or touch the vents too much, as you are probably depositing oils from your hands on it.

Also have to wonder if there were a real problem with this mask, wouldn't ResMed have pulled it by now? It is one of the most popular masks out there.

Just my 2 cents. Coffee

My insurance only allows a new mask every 6 months. Sad I'm at 3 months now, so unless I can clear out this clog, I'll be using my Swift FX for 3 months. I'll try baby shampoo.

I've never touched the vents, until last night after I did the "remove from hose & exhale" test. Then I tried tooth brushes, fingers, etc.

And as to whether they'd have removed it from the market .... mine has been not quite right for the last 2 months. I've felt NO exhaust when I put my hand in front of my face, and I knew it wasn't that way when it was brand new. But I continued to sleep with it, because that's what I was supposed to do. I'm sure many people just do the same thing.

I *have* noticed every momentary power outage in the past 2 months, because I cannot breathe at all with this mask on, if the CPAP is not running. That was never true with my Swift FX. Now that I realize the Air Fit P10 is clogged, I understand why power outages wake me up immediately.
07-22-2015 12:31 PM
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Post: #107
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
I can get a new P10 at 3mo, but I am still using both of my old ones and have a brand new one in reserve, so they are lasting longer than 3 mo. I soak em in a vinegar solution every other wash. I have never used anything special on the vents. The only issue I have ever had was that mask #2 was blocked when it was first opened, but it resolved after a little blowhard action. It's a good thing... the air venting on the FX makes my eyes swell like a pair of balloons!

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07-22-2015 01:25 PM
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Post: #108
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
[quote='BadGoodDeb' pid='123193' dateline='1437586297']

My insurance only allows a new mask every 6 months. Sad I'm at 3 months now, so unless I can clear out this clog, I'll be using my Swift FX for 3 months. I'll try baby shampoo.


BadGoodDeb,
Double check with your insurance on replacement schedule, because most insurance companies follow the Medicare replacement guidelines, even if your not on Medicare; which would be a new mask every 3 months.

I have to wonder if there was a bad batch of P10 masks, because so many seem to have the same problem.

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Post: #109
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
(07-22-2015 03:26 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  [quote='BadGoodDeb' pid='123193' dateline='1437586297']

My insurance only allows a new mask every 6 months. Sad I'm at 3 months now, so unless I can clear out this clog, I'll be using my Swift FX for 3 months. I'll try baby shampoo.


BadGoodDeb,
Double check with your insurance on replacement schedule, because most insurance companies follow the Medicare replacement guidelines, even if your not on Medicare; which would be a new mask every 3 months.

I have to wonder if there was a bad batch of P10 masks, because so many seem to have the same problem.

I re-asked them just this morning, when I requested my monthly nasal pillows (which she also slightly balked at "They last more than a month, don't they?" "Sometimes, but they deteriorate, so I need to have what is due me, at least until I have a few spares."). I'll keep requesting nasal pillows, even if I can't use the frame!

Supplier #1 on the Supplier List has the frame without cloth straps for $75 ish. They seem to include a nasal pillows; just no straps. If I can't clean the plastic exhale mesh, I'm contemplating buying one out of pocket. Maybe. And never letting it near water.
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Post: #110
RE: AirFit P10 vent blocked?
(07-22-2015 01:25 PM)DariaVader Wrote:  ... I soak em in a vinegar solution every other wash. I have never used anything special on the vents.

I have mine in for another soak today as last night after hanging to dry for 2 days was still useless. If that fails it is in with the Vinegar as a last attempt. I am just grateful that I have not bought a stack of spare pillows.

I will do a quick look back through the thread for potential replacement mask that diffuses the exhaust.

I am seriously thinking of giving it up anyway, even if it comes right this time, as something that can silently degrade my treatment is not gear I really want to use. I need my CPAP treatment to be right as it is critical to my quality of life. I do not think I can trust the P10 with my health any more.
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