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Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
I had probably my worst night since I started CPAP in February last night. I had large leaks >36% of the time and saw the unhappy red face when I woke up this morning.

I used the Large pillows (the mediums leaked terribly) and used lanolin to help with the seal, but this doesn't seem to have helped.

I put the mask on same as I did any other night... with the straps about 3 inches apart on the crown of my head.

Is this just a fluke? Should I change something tonight or just monitor?

I might add that I wash my gear on Sunday mornings, so the head strap hasn't gotten wet since then. Should I wash it twice a week to keep it from stretching?

Any feedback that you can give would be great. I felt like I'd been hit by a bus this morning, so I'm not sure that AHI is all that accurate given the fact that my mask was leaking so badly all night.


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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
The mask headgear on the P10 should not be placed as you decribed. When placing the split strap on your head, grab the back strap and pull it down over your head to the occipital area, the top strap should be placed at the crown area.
If you keep both parts of the split strap at the crown area, I don't see how the mask can stay on, which will cause leakage.
The instruction book that came with your mask explains this with photos. Wink

Your AHI isn't bad, but hard to tell how accurate it is with high leak rates.

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09-19-2015 02:32 PM
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
Hi i don't know where to post....i am still so new....i go to "Help" and posting overview....and still don't see how to post?
i see "starting a new thread" and it says " at the beginning of each section", but what is a section? sorrry. you can answer me privately too. but this forum is really my first.
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09-19-2015 02:46 PM
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
(09-19-2015 02:32 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  The mask headgear on the P10 should not be placed as you decribed. When placing the split strap on your head, grab the back strap and pull it down over your head to the occipital area, the top strap should be placed at the crown area.
If you keep both parts of the split strap at the crown area, I don't see how the mask can stay on, which will cause leakage.
The instruction book that came with your mask explains this with photos. Wink

Your AHI isn't bad, but hard to tell how accurate it is with high leak rates.

I tried it like that the first two nights and it didn't seem like it was tight enough (12% and 11% leakage). So I switched it to this configuration, which resulted in .38% leakage the first night, .57% (both less than 1% large leaks) the second night and then last night... 36%.

Is there a way to get it tighter without pulling the straps closer together?
09-19-2015 02:48 PM
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
Once you have the back part of the split strap in place at the occipital area, the top strap, which should rest on the crown area can be pulled back on the crown area a bit and you should notice it pulling your nasal pillows tighter.

When my headgear starts to stretch, I sometimes use an old fashioned bobby pin to secure the strap to my hair.

I realize not everyone can adapt to the P10, and need headgear that is adjustable.
Keep trying though, but if you can't get it to work for you, mabye time to try a different mask.

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(09-19-2015 02:46 PM)magicis Wrote:  Hi i don't know where to post....i am still so new....i go to "Help" and posting overview....and still don't see how to post?
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09-19-2015 03:14 PM
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
(09-19-2015 03:04 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  Once you have the back part of the split strap in place at the occipital area, the top strap, which should rest on the crown area can be pulled back on the crown area a bit and you should notice it pulling your nasal pillows tighter.

When my headgear starts to stretch, I sometimes use an old fashioned bobby pin to secure the strap to my hair.

I realize not everyone can adapt to the P10, and need headgear that is adjustable.
Keep trying though, but if you can't get it to work for you, mabye time to try a different mask.

THANK YOU! I'll try the bobby pin. My hair is fairly thick, so it should work to keep it there. I've only had the correct size pillow for a week (I had a Wisp before that made my face break out in a rash) and I really like how lightweight the mask, etc is, so I'm not giving up yet!

So you figure that last night was just my mask coming off my face because of the strap placement? Maybe I was just a lot stiller (or laying on my back) the first two nights.
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
I use a P10 and notice I start to get leaks when the pillows are getting “too old”. When I swap in a new pillow, it fits just fine.

I also noticed the headstrap will stretch over time and I just replaced mine recently and it made a substantial difference. I’m fortunate to have insurance coverage that replaces these parts at a frequent interval.
09-19-2015 03:33 PM
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(09-19-2015 03:33 PM)eplantz Wrote:  I use a P10 and notice I start to get leaks when the pillows are getting “too old”. When I swap in a new pillow, it fits just fine.

I also noticed the headstrap will stretch over time and I just replaced mine recently and it made a substantial difference. I’m fortunate to have insurance coverage that replaces these parts at a frequent interval.

I have good insurance, too, but I've only had the headgear for 1.5 weeks and the pillow for about a week.

How often do you have to replace your pillows?

I can get new headgear every 6 months and pillows every 2 weeks (they send them out every 3 months, though)

I think that Opal may have just hit the nail on the head... I'm using it incorrectly in an effort to overcome the natural stretching that happens. I'll try tonight with a hair clip.
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RE: Airfit P10 - Leaking terribly last night
(09-19-2015 03:31 PM)kdmorris410 Wrote:  
(09-19-2015 03:04 PM)OpalRose Wrote:  Once you have the back part of the split strap in place at the occipital area, the top strap, which should rest on the crown area can be pulled back on the crown area a bit and you should notice it pulling your nasal pillows tighter.

When my headgear starts to stretch, I sometimes use an old fashioned bobby pin to secure the strap to my hair.

I realize not everyone can adapt to the P10, and need headgear that is adjustable.
Keep trying though, but if you can't get it to work for you, mabye time to try a different mask.

THANK YOU! I'll try the bobby pin. My hair is fairly thick, so it should work to keep it there. I've only had the correct size pillow for a week (I had a Wisp before that made my face break out in a rash) and I really like how lightweight the mask, etc is, so I'm not giving up yet!

So you figure that last night was just my mask coming off my face because of the strap placement? Maybe I was just a lot stiller (or laying on my back) the first two nights.

The bobby pins don't bother me, I place one in the back and sometimes one at the top, and I move around a lot.
Try it, it can't hurt. If you can find a way to make it work for you, it is worth it. Eventually, you feel as if you are not even wearing a mask.

Your insurance allows two replacement pillow a month, which I take advantage of. I usually use a pillow two to three weeks before they are too soft and won't seal well. I also wash them every morning with dawn soap. Wash the headgear once a week, very hot water and let dry.

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