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Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
Hi All,

I get this annoying leak after about 4/5 hours of sleep. The air leaks from the bottom. Not major but I can feel the air if I put my finger there and its hard to go back to sleep after. I try to adjust it numerous times but just gives up and take it off and go back to sleep.

It leaks just a tiny bit when I put it on at the start. I just cant completely stop air coming out from the bottom. I have adjusted the straps and etc. The mask is only 3 weeks old.

I also had problems with another mask that I was using during the trail too leaking from the bottom.

Leak average is about 20/l

Really annoying.

Anyone else have this issue?
11-21-2013 09:48 PM
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Tez62 Offline

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RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
boar, I use a Resmed but two things to try are mask liners and having the hose coming from above your head, if you have tried that and tightened the bottom straps, maybe it's time to try a new mask.
11-21-2013 09:56 PM
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boar Offline

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RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
I do have the hose above my head sometimes when i am lying sideways but not sure if it made any difference. Will check it out tonight. Feel like I have to push the bottom of the mask down sometimes.
11-21-2013 10:02 PM
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PsychoMike Offline

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Post: #4
RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
The super soft seal on the Simplus gave me the same issue when I tried it. Nice, comfy mask...but the little, persistent leak was a turn off for me too.
11-22-2013 09:28 AM
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Lukie Offline

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RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
(11-21-2013 10:02 PM)boar Wrote:  I do have the hose above my head sometimes when i am lying sideways but not sure if it made any difference. Will check it out tonight. Feel like I have to push the bottom of the mask down sometimes.
The pillow you are using can make a difference. Last night I pulled a small square couch pillow that is quite firm and used it. I had been leaking and farting all night. When I readjusted the Quattro air for the 100th time and lay on this little hard pillow all was good for the rest of the night.
11-22-2013 09:41 AM
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Sleepster Offline
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RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
I know what you mean. Those leaks annoy me because of the noise they make, too.

It's very common for folks to have to try a variety of masks before finding something that works for them. This is why we see so many different types of masks available, and medical provider policies that allow us to switch masks at little or no cost.

Do not give up. Resist the urge to sleep without the mask. That kind of sleep not only doesn't do what sleep is supposed to do for us, but it actually makes things worse. In addition to increasing the risk of a heart attack or stroke, it interferes with and prolongs the adaptation to CPAP therapy.

Call your medical equipment provider and tell them what you just told us. That the leak wakes you up and you have to take the mask off to get back to sleep. Tell your doctor, too, if you have to. Find a different medical provider if you have to. Do not give up. You are fighting for your life. Without CPAP therapy we will live a miserable sleep-deprived life and die early of a heart attack or stroke.

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11-22-2013 09:41 AM
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Lukie Offline

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RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
(11-22-2013 09:41 AM)Sleepster Wrote:  I know what you mean. Those leaks annoy me because of the noise they make, too.

It's very common for folks to have to try a variety of masks before finding something that works for them. This is why we see so many different types of masks available, and medical provider policies that allow us to switch masks at little or no cost.

Do not give up. Resist the urge to sleep without the mask. That kind of sleep not only doesn't do what sleep is supposed to do for us, but it actually makes things worse. In addition to increasing the risk of a heart attack or stroke, it interferes with and prolongs the adaptation to CPAP therapy.

Call your medical equipment provider and tell them what you just told us. That the leak wakes you up and you have to take the mask off to get back to sleep. Tell your doctor, too, if you have to. Find a different medical provider if you have to. Do not give up. You are fighting for your life. Without CPAP therapy we will live a miserable sleep-deprived life and die early of a heart attack or stroke.

A few leaks are a small price to pay for a good nights sleep with plenty of oxygen.
11-22-2013 10:03 AM
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Post: #8
RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
I had the same problem when i used a full face mask. I tried multiple masks but after sleeping a while they would all start to leak at the bottom. One night i woke up and the bottom of the mask was in my mouth. I then figured out that my mouth opens up and causes the problem. They switched me to a larger mask but still the same problem. I tried chin straps but they made me more claustrophobic and a real pain to take off/on, like if you need to get a drink or scratch your nose.

I have mentioned in other posts that i now place a soft foam rubber ball between my chin and chest. It's a dog toy soft and covered in fabric. I use a tiny elastic band sewed to the ball and around my neck to keep it from getting lost. I have also use a couple of wash cloths rolled up like an enchilada. The enchilada doesn't seem to need an elastic band. This method has worked to so well that i am now using nasal pillows.

Last night was my best night ever. 7.5 hours of uninterrupted sleep, AHI was .1 Experiment some with propping your chin closed with something that is soft and comfortable. Beats the heck out of straps.
11-22-2013 10:34 AM
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boar Offline

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Post: #9
RE: Annoying mask leak from the bottom.
Thanks for the input everyone. I am averaging 5 hours sleep with the mask on. The best I had was 9 hours sleep and the worse I had was like 2 hours. If there was no leak from the bottom then it would be perfect. It is probably the soft part of the bottom on simplus that is causing the problem.
11-23-2013 07:25 AM
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