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Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Hiya Hosies,

So, I am a faithful mask wearer, I love my mask, no secret resentments etc. I don't think it slips off on it's own. Sometimes, maybe 4 or 5 nights in my 52 now, I find the mask will be taken off by me, without my being aware of it. I always seem to put it back on on my next awareness or loo trip based on the data.

Last night, the weirdest one so far, I had it off around 7 am, then back on maybe 15 mins later, for 8 mins, then off again for another 30, then back on for the last 4 hours.
An inland of 8 mins on again in a sea of 45-50 mins. Odd.

I've always looked at my data right before these removals, to see if there is anything standing out. Super high pressure, or leaks or what have you. But I don't see a pattern.

What have you all found? Is it just a blip? Is it, maybe a warmer night, or an itch you don't know you have, or higher pressures preceding? deeper sleep? Recent changes?

I doubt anyone know knows, but have you any personal theories why you have it happen?

I'm not concerned about it as it hasn't become any kind of bad habit or entrenched issue, just wondering why so random?

All else said, SLEPT great feeling wise, ahi of 3.0, deep sleep according to my phone app, not too many night pees etc. HAPPY HAPPY.

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02-16-2015 05:13 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I do not have any theories why we remove our masks at times in our sleep. I awakened one night fairly early in my PAPing to find that I had literally ripped my mask off my head. I did not take it off. I did not release any straps. I just reached up, grabbed the mask, and tore it off my head.

I have wondered what caused it. I would guess that in my case it was some sort of fear reaction possibly to something that I was dreaming. It has never happened again nor have I taken my mask off while asleep. Your demasking does not sound like it is in response to anything like what I experienced.

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02-16-2015 06:18 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
"Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?"

Because they suck...
02-16-2015 07:21 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
(02-16-2015 07:21 PM)player Wrote:  "Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?"

Because they suck...

Yes, Player, they do......
02-16-2015 07:28 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I guess technically they blow, but they also suck.

Suck and blow.
02-16-2015 07:43 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
WE???

I associate the mask or "nasal interface" with comfort. I've been doing this since 2008, and know what it's like to sleep without it. It has become comfortable, enabling and I couldn't sleep without it. Maybe it's a matter of time or a sense that you enjoy it, that the mask is not something to get away from.

True, it's an alien crawlling on your face for some folks, but I guess if you embrace it as it embraces us you'll get used to it. Resistance is futile.

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02-16-2015 07:58 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I never "unconsciously" removed my mask!
I knew exactly what I was doing when I ripped it off and tossed it on the floor.
Then had to get up to retrieve it because it was still attached to hose making that awful blower racket. It was calling my name....
You are right Sleeprider...."Resistance is futile."
Goodnight

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02-16-2015 08:51 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
How do you know you are removing the mask? It wakes you up or you going by data?

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02-16-2015 09:26 PM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I hated my mask at the beginning of my treatment but it was because I didn't get along with a FFM and rather than anyone taking the time to let me try a nasal mask or pillows, they just kept changing the cushion size which made things worse and cost me a lot of money because the FFM I had isn't like my wisp that comes with 3 cushion sizes. I am glad I have 3 to choose from. I never use the largest one but I have used the smallest and the middle size (geez, almost sounds like The Three Bears)
02-17-2015 12:23 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Yeah I have a couple of guesses why some folks do that. I personally never have asleep but i have done it awake. And the wife has in her sleep a couple times.

One reason she and I both did it was to low a min pressure causing a smothering feeling.

With nasals masks or pillows nasal congestion happening during the night has smothered me woke me and off it comes.

Wife on one occasion pulled the mask off then woke up with a bad headache withing a min. If the mask is hurting you or you perceive in your sleep its causing you pain even if its actually something else I think it causes some folks to rip it off in their sleep.
02-17-2015 03:12 AM
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