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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Wow, so many to respond to...um lets see..

Paytona, Nope never heard of it, but I looked it up and MY oh MY does it look lovely. Don't expect they have any Hen's running around down there on those lawns.

Sleeprider, YES "We"..if I'd said "any idea why I take my mask off" You know folk would have been all "I don't know, why do YOU take your mask off? ba dump bump" I'm not looking for a psychoanalyst or mind reader (-:

Paula, Data. And one time I found it on my pillow when I woke to "Void"

Opal...LOL...revenge of the mask...making that noise and you had to get up and fetch it.

Har har har to the Pap Humorists.

Me50- so much like Goldilocks indeed!

Since my mask is SO non-invasive, I figure it either was maybe some trigeminal pain I wasn't awakened by or headache, or pressure etc.

I do note, that I'd gotten a system going, suggested by some of the other "Chicks" on the board who also wear p10's of putting my hair between the two back straps to help with strap travel...well I did just get my hair cut and it weighs less now (have a bob, but it's shorter in back) and I wonder if I've got a bit of slippage going on. Anyway, so far, not an ongoing problem, just figured it's got to happen to others.

Interesting answers, thanks.

The Manse Hen
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02-17-2015 03:31 AM
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Post: #12
RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Hi,

As a first time poster, long time lurker, I wanted to respond to this thread. When I wore many full face masks, unintentional mask removal was a constant problem due to extreme discomfort with the masks.

Once I switched to an Elan Cloth Mask, the problem was just about solved. I do recall removing it when I went to bed with worse than the usual amount of congestion.

Unfortunately, this hasn't solved my pap therapy problems which I hope to address with a likely septoplasty/turbinate reduction. A whole other discussion.

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02-17-2015 04:59 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Hi 49r,
My mask isn't very invasive so I'm not thinking it's that reason, but as I have trigeminal neuralgia which can make even a light mask irritating, it's a possibility that I did pull it off for discomfort of that sort. Re: your cloth mask, I only just heard of such the other day. Good to hear it helped you and it is an unusual mask that I don't think many know of.

I am sorry you've had such woes getting your pap therapy. I hope this board has helped you even in your lurking state (-:
Best wishes,

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02-18-2015 04:30 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
(02-18-2015 04:30 AM)TheManseHen Wrote:  Hi 49r,
My mask isn't very invasive so I'm not thinking it's that reason, but as I have trigeminal neuralgia which can make even a light mask irritating, it's a possibility that I did pull it off for discomfort of that sort. Re: your cloth mask, I only just heard of such the other day. Good to hear it helped you and it is an unusual mask that I don't think many know of.

I am sorry you've had such woes getting your pap therapy. I hope this board has helped you even in your lurking state (-:
Best wishes,

The Manse Hen

Hi The Manse Hen,

Thank you for being empathetic to my difficulties. Yes, the board definitely has helped as without it, I wouldn't have learned a darned thing about pap therapy issues. None of the sleep doctors I have seen have taught me anything.

Yup, you are right, the cloth masks are not very well known and I wish they were. The comfort if you can control the leaks is just so much better in my opinion.

Good luck in getting your situation straightened out. No matter what the reason is, removing a mask unintentionally is quite frustrating. During my full face mask days, I definitely felt that way when I awoke to see it by my pillow.
02-18-2015 05:59 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I've removed my mask a number of times when the room got too warm. Now I ensure I turn down the thermostat before going to bed. So far so good.
02-18-2015 10:19 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Do you have any condensation in the mask. I use a PRS1 Auto with a heated hose and I sometimes have droplets of water dripping out of the nasal pillows on the P10 if the ambient humidity is high. That may be another potential reason. A small hose cozy for the short tube may fix it.

I am not awakened by it so it doesn't really bother me except when I wake up in the morning. But this is something to consider.

Started APAP 4-20, Closed range to 7.5-14, then straight 8.0 w/ Aflex 3
RDI always below 1. But sleep much much better at straight pressure.
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02-18-2015 11:37 AM
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
You all aren't going to believe this. The ENT that I am going to schedule a septoplasty/turbinate reduction with said I could wear a Fit Life/Full Face Mask after the surgery since it doesn't touch the nasal area. So I decided to test it out and take a nap with it and lowered the pressure to avoid leaks and because I assumed I would need to to avoid drying out the surgical site. My AHI is also consistently near zero although that isn't anything to brag about with poor sleep on the machine.

Unintentionally ditched it after 30 minutes and ended up sleeping 1 hour without the mask which of course, did not make me happy. Sheesh, this brought back memories of my full face mask fun. Smile
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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Well I woke up last night and the mask was not on my face and it was hanging up on the bedpost where I store it so the kitten does not chew on it. I didn't know how long it had been off but based on the myair report probably no longer than 1/2 hr. Have no clue why I removed it as it doesn't seem to bother me at all.

I know my husband removes his at least once a night but he just seems to toss his on the floor.

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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
Thanks 49, Klad, Ash, and Cl,

Well I keep the bedroom at 62 degrees by using window unit A.C, much to my husband's horror (he gets a down cover) and I haven't had any rainout since the first couple nights. That said, I did notice some tiny droplets in the nose pillow portion of the mask one of the bad days, so perhaps it was a more humid night. I also had washed the pillows late in the day, so I figured that could be a factor.

I've read recently in a study on Central Apnea, Mixed Apnea that it isn't uncommon for folk to take the mask off without knowing with centrals, but I don't think that is necessarily causative, I mean, it happens in c-pap in general, it just was an observation in the particular study.

Kitty chewing on it...lol..not LOL.

Sleep well my pap-er friends.

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RE: Any theories why we unconsciously remove mask?
I will tell you that I really like the heated hose. Do you use one? Mine seems to work great in auto mode as just set and forget.
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