Hello Guest, Welcome to Apnea Board !
As a guest, you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use.
To post a message, you must create a free account using a valid email address.

or Create an Account


New Posts   Today's Posts

Bad hour every night, should I change pressure range?
#1
Seems like every night around 4:30a-5:30a I'll have a series of OA events. Night before last was a great example, see attached screenshots.

Pressure is currently set at 8-14, which seems to have been high enough (pressure didn't quite reach 14 even at the height of it). My fiance says I mouth-breathe sometimes, but the leak rate doesn't seem to be showing that -- it varies with the pressure as I'd expect it to. I do wonder why pressure came down while OAs were still going on. Makes me wonder if they're really being handled properly.

Any thoughts? Should I change my pressure range?


Attached Files Thumbnail(s)
       
Post Reply Post Reply
#2
(02-25-2016, 12:09 PM)Winterfrost Wrote: Seems like every night around 4:30a-5:30a I'll have a series of OA events. Night before last was a great example, see attached screenshots.

Pressure is currently set at 8-14, which seems to have been high enough (pressure didn't quite reach 14 even at the height of it). My fiance says I mouth-breathe sometimes, but the leak rate doesn't seem to be showing that -- it varies with the pressure as I'd expect it to. I do wonder why pressure came down while OAs were still going on. Makes me wonder if they're really being handled properly.

Any thoughts? Should I change my pressure range?

I am no expert but considering that your 95% pressure is over 12 I would be inclined to raise my strating pressure upwards from 8 to something higher to hopefully prevent some of the events.
Post Reply Post Reply
#3
Pretty sure you will get some good feedback on something to do. Those snores should not be happening IMHO. I would tend to agree that you low side pressure might be too low, will let others chime in about that. During 4:20 -5:20 the machine is working hard to stop the burst of OA's and eventually does, but it would seem like you could have better settings.

Again there are others around here that will be able to give you some great suggestions.
Post Reply Post Reply


#4
With a 95% reading of over 12, your min. pressure of 8 is too low too tackle the hypopneas, Obstructives, and snores.

Raise it to 9.5 or 10 and leave your max pressure alone for now.

Post Reply Post Reply
#5
Thanks much! I will try that starting tonight.
Post Reply Post Reply
#6
Machine is responding as designed.
Your min is to low. From the looks of it it should be set at around 10 to 10.5.
Post Reply Post Reply


#7
I agree the minimum pressure should be raised. You are having quite a bit of flow limitation and hypopnea throughout the night that should be improved with higher minimum pressure. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is related to sleeping on your back. Positional apnea often presents as clusters like this.
Post Reply Post Reply
#8
(02-25-2016, 12:09 PM)Winterfrost Wrote: Seems like every night around 4:30a-5:30a I'll have a series of OA events. Night before last was a great example, see attached screenshots.

Pressure is currently set at 8-14, which seems to have been high enough (pressure didn't quite reach 14 even at the height of it). My fiance says I mouth-breathe sometimes, but the leak rate doesn't seem to be showing that -- it varies with the pressure as I'd expect it to. I do wonder why pressure came down while OAs were still going on. Makes me wonder if they're really being handled properly.
Any thoughts? Should I change my pressure range?

Your pressure setting & range would seem to be ideal, given the evidence provided by your data.
It's common for sleepers to change their sleeping position around 3:30 to 4:30am & later. By this time bones & joints are telling the brain to move. Most sleepers roll onto their back (supine) & then problems begin to occur.
Also you have significant leak rates which too is common for patients using the nasal route. Speaking from experience I can tell you that therapy air escaping orally defeats your treatment & is not easily remedied. There are quite a number of suggestions on this forum to fix this, but IMHO they don't work. I taped my mouth for six years before changing to an F&P Simplus FFM. Taping works best, but the FFM is a more acceptable approach for most patients.
[Image: signature.png]Keep on breathin'
Post Reply Post Reply
#9
UPDATE: Last night I changed the min pressure to 10 per advice here, and what a difference! AHI last night was .54, with 1 very brief CA and 2 very brief OAs (spaced far apart). Just a few snores and if I recall correctly, no hypopneas at all! Even the leak rate seemed better - it may have been a hair higher (as you'd expect with higher pressure) but was much more level. Breathing was nice and even all night. Hurray! Big Grin

Thanks
Post Reply Post Reply


#10
(02-26-2016, 01:55 PM)Winterfrost Wrote: UPDATE: Last night I changed the min pressure to 10 per advice here, and what a difference! AHI last night was .54, with 1 very brief CA and 2 very brief OAs (spaced far apart). Just a few snores and if I recall correctly, no hypopneas at all! Even the leak rate seemed better - it may have been a hair higher (as you'd expect with higher pressure) but was much more level. Breathing was nice and even all night. Hurray! Big Grin

Thanks

Winterfrost
Happy that the pressure change made a difference. Keep watch on your 95% number, and try to keep your start pressure 1 to 2cm below it.

Just so you know that the 95% number doesn't mean you were at that pressure all night, but that you were at that pressure (and under) for 95% of the night.

Also, if your pressure starts to stay at max setting, let us know so we can help advise. It's all a learning process. You'll get there! Smile
Post Reply Post Reply


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Sudden Unexplainable Change scottdooley 38 1,011 Yesterday, 05:25 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  Change p10 to n20 mask Rcgop 13 704 03-24-2017, 05:24 PM
Last Post: pdguest
  Do I still meet the 4 hour a night compliance if my mask leaks? UKwildcatfan 4 192 03-18-2017, 01:25 AM
Last Post: Ockrocket
  change in mask Haynbo 4 130 03-17-2017, 04:12 PM
Last Post: Hydrangea
  CPAP FILTER, CHANGE OR NOT TO CHANGE pavelow360 20 601 03-16-2017, 02:38 PM
Last Post: hobbs
  CHANGE IN WEIGHT yyanco1 13 344 03-14-2017, 01:17 AM
Last Post: yyanco1
  Auto CPAP - why narrow the range? Hydrangea 9 428 03-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Last Post: Rcgop

Forum Jump:

New Posts   Today's Posts




About Apnea Board

Apnea Board is an educational web site designed to empower Sleep Apnea patients.

For any more information, please use our contact form.