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Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
I love my resmed 8. Really, really love it. But now I have a Airsense 10. I have tried everything but I can't breathe through it. Feels like I'm breathing through mud. So I decided to try and buy as many resmed 8's so that I would have enough to last me the rest of my life. (I really cannot sleep without my resmed8) There were a few on ebay that I lost out due to being overbid, but I did manage to get one. Unfortunately, it has a horrible odor. Not the water well, or hose, but the machine itself. Not sure if it is mold. This is probably why the guy was selling it and now I have it. Ugh. Very concerned as now I don't want to purchase another used one for fear of this happening again but once my current resmed 8 goes, I am in big trouble.
04-27-2016 08:36 AM
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Post: #2
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
Do you have the A10 set to the same pressure, ramp, and EPR settings as your S8? Please describe the "mud" feeling. Is this when you inhale, exhale, or both?

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04-27-2016 09:20 AM
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puglady Offline

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RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
Yes, everything is set exactly like my resmed 8. I have tried high humidity, low humidity, no humidity. I got rid of the heated hose but with my resmed 8, it is clean fresh air that I breathe in and out but with the airsense 10, the air feels thick and it is hard to both inhale and exhale. I find myself hyperventilating to get enough air. I don't mean to be a pain. I have used a CPAP for over 10 years with great results. I was excited to get the new machine and so disappointed to not be able to tolerate it.
04-27-2016 09:35 AM
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Crimson Nape Offline

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RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
I'm just guessing here but it sounds like the pressure is too low on the A10. . . Have you tried bumping up the A10's pressure to see if that stops the suffocating feeling?

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04-27-2016 09:41 AM
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OpalRose Offline

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Post: #5
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
Just a thought...have you changed masks too, or using the same mask as you did with the S8?
A new mask could be the problem.

You can turn the humidifier off with the A10, and you shouldn't get warn air. Ate you using EPR?
That will help you when exhaling.

What pressure is your A10 set at? As Crimson Nape stated above, you may need a higher pressure.
Your S8 was 10 years old. It may have not been putting out the correct air flow, or possiblly you now require a higher pressure.

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(This post was last modified: 04-27-2016 09:46 AM by OpalRose.)
04-27-2016 09:41 AM
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RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
A couple things, first as said above, I would think the 10 would perform exactly the same if set correctly.

Second, I STRONGLY suggest you have any unit you buy on EBay sterilized/sanitized before attempting to use it, a "bad odor" is indicative of more than just a bad smell, and even if there was no odor you could be risking your health. Look at the vendors list and check out their services - most offer sanitized used units.

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04-27-2016 10:53 AM
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Post: #7
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
I can echo most of the above. While I've never used the 8 and thus have no basis for comparison, I find it hard to believe that the A10 has not seen some improvements from two models prior, thus I truly believe there is something different, or off, in the settings. I love my A10, but all of these machines work in a similar fashion and most of the performance variability can be explained by settings or mask type.

I've responded to a couple of your other posts on the same topic, and we've all suggested trying EPR, turning off Autoramp, adjusting humidity / hose temp, etc. - have you tried any of those tweaks? There is no reason I can think of why an A10 would cause a suffocating feeling unless it is set up differently than your 8, or you're using a different mask type.
04-27-2016 11:15 AM
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Post: #8
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
Hi Puglady. It sounds like it might be helpful if you took your Resmed 8 and your Airsense 10 in to your DME together and get a therapist or technician there to check out the temperature, pressure, and humidity of the air being produced.

Then you'd know how the two machines compare and maybe you could get an idea if there's anything you can change on the Airsense 10 so that the air it delivers will be comfortable for you.

You can do this yourself at home if you have the right measuring gadgets, but if you don't have them it would be easier to take both machines to the DME and get them checked out.

I'd ask to be there and watch them check them out.

(04-27-2016 09:35 AM)puglady Wrote:  Yes, everything is set exactly like my resmed 8. I have tried high humidity, low humidity, no humidity. I got rid of the heated hose but with my resmed 8, it is clean fresh air that I breathe in and out but with the airsense 10, the air feels thick and it is hard to both inhale and exhale. I find myself hyperventilating to get enough air. I don't mean to be a pain. I have used a CPAP for over 10 years with great results. I was excited to get the new machine and so disappointed to not be able to tolerate it.
04-27-2016 01:17 PM
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BadGoodDeb Offline

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Post: #9
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
The AirFit P10 nasal mask, that is often supplied with the new AirSense 10, has given a number of people here (me!) issues with breathing through the mesh on the outside of the mask. Have you tried the AirSense 10 machine with your old mask attached to the hose?
04-27-2016 01:24 PM
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Post: #10
RE: Be careful I purchased use Resmed 8- learned a lesson
(04-27-2016 08:36 AM)puglady Wrote:  Unfortunately, it has a horrible odor. Not the water well, or hose, but the machine itself. Not sure if it is mold.

Does it smell like very strong alcohol?

You might be able to get your DME to clean it for you.

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04-27-2016 01:40 PM
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