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Hydrangea:
I read your request & thought I'd give it a try. (P10 headgear on Brevida mask)
1- Take out the 2 attachment clips from the Brevida headgear.
2- P10 gear: Cut a little hole on the blue side- Extend the slot (grey side)1/4 inch so you can enter the clip inside the band.
3- Sew both sides tight so the clips won't slide out when you put tension on the gear. Attach to the mask - all done - 20min.
I did the opposite (Brevida gear on a P10 mask to have more adjustment) so I figure this was doable. If the adjustment is not right you can always cut & extend the gear or use the clips provided with the P10 to tighten --- if this works for you. I've tried it last night & it's ok for me.
If it doesn't work, just undo & rebuild your Brevida gear. No lost.
03-16-2022, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 03-16-2022, 02:54 PM by BeauPetitNez.)
RE: Brevida mask with P10 headgear?
I am totally right with you, the Brevida band is a cheap and bad headgear. Sorry this is not with a P10... only a Swift FX. This a former post I did today.
Over my 8 CPAP years, I tried many mask as P10 and Swift FX.
Even if I am a man, I use Small Lady sizes and a little nose have less surface and width to stabilize the mask.
Since 4 years I stick to Swift FX but recently discover the Brevida. 4 years ago I designed a 3D mask where the nose is 3D scanned and mask printed for the individual shape. Because of the complex steps, scan, design, print I stopped the project... my others was easier to success.
BUT the Brevida is quite identical to my design and I bought a Small-XS. I am in the first week of test and the leaks are 3 times those of my Swift FX, the AIH is a bit higher 2.5-3, but this is a start. I am sure if I continue to find a good adjustment it will be good.
My critics on the Brevida... 1 - We must use the outlet filter because of the noise but it is too dense, increases the restriction and makes it difficult to expel air causing in my opinion more leaks
2 - Stiffer mask tube than Resmed Swift FX therefore increases the forces to cause mask displacement and leaks. I tried to replace the mask tube with the Swift FX one but sizes don't match... Will need to design and 3D print an adaptor Ha Ha
3 - Head band with low control of positioning, no band on top and back like the Swift FX has... Actually I am modifying the head band of the Brevida with that of the Swift FX and I will post my success.
fwiw, you can use the Fisher & Paykel Pilairo Q headgear with the Brevida, with slight modifications to use the Brevida clips instead of the Pilairo clips (which don't attach to the Brevida mask securely).
I tried the Pilairo headgear for a while but went back to the standard Brevida headgear, as it felt overall lighter. At least the Brevida headgear doesn't stretch so much like the P10 headgear does.
The headgear I would like to see on the Brevida is the one on the Evora nasal mask. That is a very comfortable headgear. But that headgear is part of the mask, so I didn't see any easy way to adapt it.
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03-18-2022, 10:29 AM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2022, 10:32 AM by BeauPetitNez.)
RE: Brevida mask with P10 headgear?
(03-16-2022, 03:09 PM)GuyScharf Wrote: fwiw, you can use the Fisher & Paykel Pilairo Q headgear with the Brevida, with slight modifications to use the Brevida clips instead of the Pilairo clips (which don't attach to the Brevida mask securely).
I tried the Pilairo headgear for a while but went back to the standard Brevida headgear, as it felt overall lighter. At least the Brevida headgear doesn't stretch so much like the P10 headgear does.
The headgear I would like to see on the Brevida is the one on the Evora nasal mask. That is a very comfortable headgear. But that headgear is part of the mask, so I didn't see any easy way to adapt it.
You are totally in line with my actual toughts.
The Swift + Brevida headgear I did is temporary.
Last night I found the good adjustments and it worked very well. Comfortable (very good for such a home made headgear), very low leaks, a good night.
So when I will receive my Evora Headgear and make the modification I will post.
I happened to look at the difference between the two headgear designs and noticed that the Pilairo headgear was $10 USD cheaper, even though it is a more substantial design. One of those "Go figure!" moments.
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03-18-2022, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2022, 02:06 PM by BeauPetitNez.)
RE: Brevida mask with P10 headgear?
Those headgear like the Brevida where the two band in the back of the head have to be forced and stretched to "open" to top and back is not good, because natural spring back even of a soft fabric will reassemble them and loose stability.
Design like the Swift FX and better the Evora are best because the good position is given with the manufacturing of the shape and give a better positionning all night.
Cut the Evora headgear and fix the folded ends to the Brevida hook in an easy task, and the large "forward-back" adusting capacity will come from the back head band at the same time the top band will keep the right level.
Has I mentionned in en earlier answer to your thread, I am on the way to install a EVORA headgear on a Brevida.
I can't compare with the P10 one but think the Evora is on the same way to fix... also like the Swift Nano one.
See my thread with the keywords "Brevida Evora".
Actually after 3 nights I am very comfortable and better to come.
