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[CPAP] AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
I would agree with that.. Corporatism (basic fascism) is a better definition of what we have in the U.S.

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03-16-2012 09:15 AM
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Post: #72
RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
Here in Canada Part of the cost is covered by the govenrnment, so there are strict guidelines as to when an APAP is offered (unfortunately). Overall if I was to purchase a unit it would be an Auto and as I only "need CPAP" then the unit could be programmed to be in CPAP mode. (this is what our suppliers use as loaner units as they can be programmed to operate in all modes). I would like the option to switch it to Auto to check on what the CPAP pressure should be set to.

Right now I started with a loaner S9 Auto, purchased the S9 Elite, returned the S9 Elite because of the motor noise, received a different S9 Auto as a loaner while they check out the S9 Elite. I go back friday to find out what the path forward is.
03-19-2012 09:23 PM
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP? [copied]
(02-25-2012 06:32 PM)SuperSleeper Wrote:  
Steven Wrote:YEP, "Auto" CPAP (aka APAP) is ALWAYS the way to go - EVEN if you plan to always use it in straight CPAP mode.

In fact I feel so strongly about it, I just returned home with my brand spanking new ResMed S9 AutoSet.

I will post in a separate topic the steps I took to make certain that I got what "I" wanted.

Does anyone know the differences between S9-autoset and S9-VPAP? S9-VPAP is more expensive. I have been using S9-VPAP for 3 months, my nightly AHI's range from 4 to 10. I try to make it below 5, but everything is supposed to be auto and optimized by software, is there anything I can do? Or I have to leave my AHI from 4 to 10 and be happy?
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
Typically, the autoset is used by those with obstructive sleep apnea and VPAPs are for those with central sleep apnea. If you have CSA, you'd want a VPAP for sure.

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04-24-2012 02:22 PM
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
(04-24-2012 02:22 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  Typically, the autoset is used by those with obstructive sleep apnea and VPAPs are for those with central sleep apnea. If you have CSA, you'd want a VPAP for sure.

I have both CSA and OSA, does VPAP handle both effectively?
My nightly AHI's range from 4 to 10. I try to make it below 5, but everything is supposed to be auto and optimized by software, is there anything I can do? Or I have to leave my AHI from 4 to 10 and be happy?
04-24-2012 03:16 PM
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
(04-24-2012 03:16 PM)SamWong2012 Wrote:  
(04-24-2012 02:22 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  Typically, the autoset is used by those with obstructive sleep apnea and VPAPs are for those with central sleep apnea. If you have CSA, you'd want a VPAP for sure.

I have both CSA and OSA, does VPAP handle both effectively?
My nightly AHI's range from 4 to 10. I try to make it below 5, but everything is supposed to be auto and optimized by software, is there anything I can do? Or I have to leave my AHI from 4 to 10 and be happy?

Check your statistics - where is your 95th percentile pressure, median, etc?

You might find that the events you're having happen while you're at the low end of your pressure range. If that's the case, consult with your RT or Dr about raising the low number a point or two, to reduce the time the machine takes to ramp up to a therapeutic level. You don't want to go up too high, though, if you're like me - my median pressure numbers have been dropping since I started.
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Post: #77
RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
What pressure does your machine use the most? The highest? The lowest?

When's the last time you saw your sleep doc?

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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
Please add VPAP to the S9 in profile. The S9 AutoSet does nothing to central apnea as it does not initiate breath if you,re not breathing as in the case of central apnea no obstruction just not breathing on own.
04-25-2012 12:16 AM
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
The answer to the question is "NO"
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RE: AUTO or not - Is the auto-CPAP machine inherently better than a CPAP?
(04-24-2012 03:46 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  What pressure does your machine use the most? The highest? The lowest?

When's the last time you saw your sleep doc?

Sorry getting back late, I finally figure out how to read my settings:

Therapy Mode: Vauto
Min EPAP 4.0 cmH2O
Max IPAP 25.0 cmH2O
PS 4
TI max 2.0
Trigger Med
Cycle Med
Max Ramp 30 min
Start E 4.0
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