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Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
I just picked up my new AirSense 10 CPAP machine yesterday and was told that the machine could sense when I was awake and asleep and if the pressure went up I wouldn't feel it because it would happen when I was asleep and when I awoke the pressure would go down. I wasn't even asleep yet and my breathing was fine but the pressure went up from 4.0 to 12.5 and it wouldn't go down until I turned it off and started it over. I woke up in the night and it was 11.5 but it did not go down by itself I had to turn it off again and start it over. Anybody have that happen and how do you stop it from doing that.
04-02-2015 11:21 AM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
I suspect you have the ramp feature turned on.
It's personal choice; but most people do not use the ramp.

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04-02-2015 11:36 AM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
I fear you've been misled.

As our illustrious Paula would say... Or maybe it's RobySue............. The only one that knows when you're awake or asleep is Santa Clause. ..and as talented as the A10's are, Santa Clause they are not.

What you are describing is a feature called "Ramp." The idea of the ramp feature is to start at a low pressure, then build slowly over a period of time in which you will fall asleep.

You can use ramp if you wish. Some do, some don't. While in ramp, your machine will not detect/prevent apnea events. My personal preference for a ramp setting is "off." You can specify the beginning pressure, which right now for you is 4, the maximum ramp pressure -- which sounds like it's 12.5? And how long the machine takes to get there.

The machine will not lower the pressure if you wake up. Turning it off, then on, restarts the ramp, which defeats the ability of the machine to sense apnea events.
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04-02-2015 11:38 AM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
Hi Guerrieri,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
I would agree with what others have said, turn off the ramp and see if that will help.
Much success to you with your CPAP therapy.

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04-02-2015 12:38 PM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
The A10 AutoRamp function is a one time thing. If enabled, it waits until it thinks you're asleep, and then ramps the pressure up. It doesn't drop pressure when you wake up unless you turn it off and back on.

If the machine is in auto pressure mode, when you wake up or stop having apneas or other forms of disturbed breathing, it will slowly lower pressure down to the minimum pressure setting, but it will take a while to do so.

It's unclear how good a job the machine does at telling whether you're asleep or not in order to start the AutoRamp function.

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04-02-2015 02:31 PM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
I wonder if this feature works on the For Her model (which I am getting)?
06-05-2015 03:19 PM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
(06-05-2015 03:19 PM)Mosquitobait Wrote:  I wonder if this feature works on the For Her model (which I am getting)?

If you are asking (axing) if the for her model also has the Auto Ramp feature........yes it does.

And if you access the clinician menu you can indeed set the start pressure for ramp and or auto ramp......the default is 4cm which is way too low for most people, so I'd set it higher, at least 6cm. Most folks get that smothered sensation if you leave it set at the 4cm default.
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06-05-2015 03:28 PM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
(06-05-2015 03:19 PM)Mosquitobait Wrote:  I wonder if this feature works on the For Her model (which I am getting)?
Yes, AirSense 10 AutoSet 4 Her is top of the range

Congrats
06-05-2015 11:38 PM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
(04-02-2015 11:21 AM)Guerrieri Wrote:  I just picked up my new AirSense 10 CPAP machine yesterday and was told that the machine could sense when I was awake and asleep and if the pressure went up I wouldn't feel it because it would happen when I was asleep and when I awoke the pressure would go down. I wasn't even asleep yet and my breathing was fine but the pressure went up from 4.0 to 12.5 and it wouldn't go down until I turned it off and started it over. I woke up in the night and it was 11.5 but it did not go down by itself I had to turn it off again and start it over. Anybody have that happen and how do you stop it from doing that.

Hi Guerrieri,

The time allowed to finish ramping in Auto Ramp mode is 30 minutes.

Even if the machine does not detect sleep onset, it has to start ramping up early enough to finish within the 30 minutes, after ramping 1cmH2O per minute.

In Auto Ramp mode, after around 21.5 minutes of waiting for you to fall asleep it will start ramping up at 1 cmH2O per minute (or 0.2 cmH2O every 12 seconds), so that around 8.5 minutes later it will have reached therapeutic pressure.

If you raise the Start Pressure for the ramp to about 8.5, the ramping would need only about 4 minutes to ramp up to around 12.5, so the machine would be able to wait up to around 26 minutes for you to fall asleep before (ready or not) it would need to start ramping up.

Take care,
--- Vaughn

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06-07-2015 03:01 AM
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RE: Air Sense 10 Auto CPAP
(06-05-2015 03:28 PM)under pressure Wrote:  And if you access the clinician menu you can indeed set the start pressure for ramp and or auto ramp......the default is 4cm which is way too low for most people, so I'd set it higher, at least 6cm. Most folks get that smothered sensation if you leave it set at the 4cm default.

Thanks for mentioning this, I didn't know I could change the ramp starting pressure. I originally had my pressure set 6-12 on the S9 and of course, the ramp started at 4, so I didn't use it. The PA reset my starting pressure to 8 and that was just too much for me. However, after reading your comment, I checked the S9 and reset the starting pressure for the RAMP at 6. Much more comfortable. I have it set for 20 minutes since I usually fall asleep within that space of time. Even if I don't, the gradual increase was tolerable.
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