(01-23-2016 08:59 PM)konstantine Wrote: A few weeks ago , I had a severe fever , no upper respiratory symptoms , no mucus or cough, no phlegm etc. After a week of this fever , I had enough and went to the emergency room at night. There was no line so I got tested and admitted in quickly. The at this medical center are very professional and efficient. The location and name of this facility will remain anonymous in this post. The doctor who received me asked several questions about the fever and my symptoms , he took X-Rays of my lungs and then told me there is a chance this is either a mild pneumonia and a sinus infection combined. He prescribed zythromicine pack that straight away cured the symptoms of fever three days fever later.
Your doctor prescribed the antibiotic in case
your infection was bacterial. How do you know that the antibiotic "straight away cured it"? Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. Maybe you had a viral infection and just got better, irrespective of the antibiotic. The only reason I even comment on this point is I find it fascinating how in this instance, you are certain of a positive cause and affect, yet in the case of cpap keep mentioning possible negative cause and effects that you imagine might exist.
Quote:He asked I come back for a check up but after receiving the bill from the hospital for that 20 minute visit , I decided not to. Needless to say no symptoms since . I use a CPAP and I stopped using it during the fever since I had a fear that it might be a respiratory infection caused by unseen microbial bacteria or mold.
As much as I needed a restful sleep something about the machine started to make me question the reasons I got sick in the first place.
When I was in the emergency room I recalled the doctor asking me if I used a CPAP , when I told him I did he wrote this down. I asked why , is there a connection. He said that there isn't any conclusive evidence for it but that he had noticed CPAP users often come in with similar symptoms. I know that this forum is pro CPAP , I am not advising we stop using them. Obviously the need for oxygen and a restful sleep is paramount to healing and getting good sleep , energy and avoiding cardiac issues. I found this site for any information on this exact topic . Yet instead I find when someone posts the mere hint that the CPAP is the source of any possible negative results is an aggressive denial.
If by "aggressive denial" you mean asking for evidence, or what the mechanism would be to cause such a thing, I'll plead guilty.
Quote:I find it important that there might be possibility that infections, water in lungs and breathing issues related to CPAPs and their subsequent design flaws might be worth questioning.
They are tools we use constantly to help with our breathing , they are enclosed in a specific measured space and enclosed environment that is by comparison smaller than our own esophageal passageways & lung capacity. Also they are not self cleaning and they are prone to biological bacteria , dust and residual mold from this material and liquid. I thoroughly wash my machine, its water receptacle and all the parts. Despite all this I find that unless I go over every tubular crevice with a antibacterial wash or every nook in the water container with a tooth brush , there will be material and bacteria that may go through.
We are surrounded by bacteria. Bacteria lives on us. Unfortunately many people obsess about it being in one area while ignoring the thousand other areas it exists. The cpap machine appears to be your area of focus.
With regard to cpap machines, they can cause infections if not kept clean, that's why we clean them. So can toothbrushes, dishes and food. Do you stop using them when you get sick?
Quote:Also I want to stress we live at home and this is not a sterile environment.
Exactly, there is bacteria everywhere
at home. If you regularly sterilize your cpap machine that's going to be one of the more bacteria free areas.
Quote:We do not live in a hospital and we do not have access to material methods or time to ensure a pristine method that will insure our lungs and sinus are breathing bacteria proof air . When you are in a hospital environment everything is clean and sterile to make sure that infections, virus and bacteria do not get spread.
Tee hee hee. The CDC estimates 99,000 people die in the US from hospital born infections each year, and 1.7 million infections. Even though a home is also teaming with bacteria, you are far less likely to be infected there because you don't have an environment with thousands of patients fighting disease with healthcare workers moving back and forth between them.
Quote:I have been using my machine since the fever. Yet I recently noticed a gurgling sound from my lungs when I exhale. Will see a doctor to make sure , but until I am certain that this is unrelated , I will discontinue use of the cpap device
That's your choice, and I don't know how severe your apnea is, so maybe it's a low risk one, but you are basically choosing a certain risk over an imaginary one.
Quote:I have noticed a connection with my repository issues when ever I get sick and question if they happen because of a design error related to the CPAP.
What design error might that be? I am also curious why you conclude that breathing through a cpap machine increases the likelihood of lung issues? As opposed to concluding that breathing filtered air in fact reduces the likelihood of lung issues? Ditto for assuming that humidified air is bad for lungs.
Quote:I am not taking anymore chances.
This represents poor risk assessment. You are choosing to subject yourself to a known danger of not sleeping with your cpap machine, because of an imagined "chance".
Quote:I will test this theory by not using it for a week to see how my lungs react I was lucky that the pneumonia did not affect my health in a serious way and I am not certain that the CPAP did not have any thing to do with the infection to begin with .
You are not testing anything. The odds are that your lungs will get better. When they do, you can then convince yourself it was because you were not using cpap.
Quote:Perhaps we should not rule out all possibility of the CPAP having anything to do with this sudden and serious respiratory issue.
This is what is referred to as misuse of the precautionary principle, it's a type of logical fallacy. You invoke an imaginary risk, and then proclaim that we need to rule out all risk. That's not the way it works. Nearly everything contains some risk. In the case of cpap if a person does not keep their machine clean, the possibility of infection exists. So we clean our machines. And yes, even then
the possibility of infection exists. But it's very, very low, infinitely lower than the risk of not using the machine.
Quote:Do not be too quick to dismiss the possibility that an enclosed wet environment circulating air may be the cause of infection from either bacteria- mold etc . This is well within the realm of possibility
No it isn't, not in the way you mean. You might as well make the same argument about living in a house. Take a look at your furnace and duct work some time. Your cpap machine is sterile in comparison.