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CPAP and Bronchitis Don't Mix!
#41
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Didn't know Xylitol could be used for ears.

Public Service Announcement: Please keep any Xylitol product away from all dogs. No matter the weight/size of the dog and the amount digested, it is very toxic and deadly to canines. Google "Xylitol and dogs".

From Snopes:
Quote:While Xylitol is safe for humans, it can be harmful to dogs. The compound doesn't affect glucose levels in people, but when ingested by dogs it can cause a dangerous surge of insulin. (In as little as 15 minutes, the blood sugar of a dog that has eaten gum containing Xylitol may register a marked drop in blood sugar.) At higher doses, Xylitol is believed toxic to the canine liver.

Just three grams of Xylitol can kill a 65-pound dog. Because the amount of sweetener used in sugar-free chewing gums varies by manufacturer and product, the number of sticks of gum that would prove fatal to a pooch of that size can't be stated with precision. As a general rule of thumb, between eight and ten pieces of gum might be deadly to a 65-pound canine, but a smaller dog could easily die after ingesting far less (perhaps as few as two sticks of gum)
PaulaO

Take a deep breath and count to zen.




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#42
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Thanks, Paula - that is a good reminder!!! My dog started to go for my kleenex full of xylitol and it was your warnings that made me make sure he didn't get it!
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Tongue Suck Technique for prevention of mouth breathing:
  • Place your tongue behind your front teeth on the roof of your mouth
  • let your tongue fill the space between the upper molars
  • gently suck to form a light vacuum

Practising during the day can help you to keep it at night

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#43
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I have been using CPAP for a couple of months. I was referred for a sleep study because I had developed treatment-resistant hypertension. I never had any daytime sleepiness. I have chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, so I was used to not waking up feeling rested and well.

I am using my CPAP machine about 70% of the nights, but I am still experiencing psychological resistance to the idea of it from time to time.

I am considering buying a pulse oximeter to use to see what my oxygen saturation while sleeping with the CPAP machine is like compared to not using it.

I feel like having some kind of measurable sign that the CPAP is helping me would help me to use it every single night.

My blood pressure seems to be getting a little better (hard to say for sure yet) and I do have occasional mornings now when I wake up and feel better than I have in years but it's not consistent.

I suppose I wrote all this just to say that I agree that learning to use CPAP consistently is tough for some people. I find this support community to be helpful. Without it, I probably would have tossed the machine, mask, and hose in the garbage by now in spite of the fact that it's not paid for.

(03-06-2016, 12:11 AM)Greyfort7 Wrote: My humidity seems to be on auto, but it does use up all of the water overnight. It's probably because we have no humidifier on the furnace. It's good to know that it can help me.

My biggest problem has been that I have always had chronic nosebleeds. I was at the point where I'd have to go to the hospital whenever I had a nosebleed, because they were so severe and wouldn't stop. I stopped blowing my nose completely and now do a very gentle saline rinse routine. I hadn't had a nosebleed in 3 1/2 years, but since I got my CPAP machine, I've had 3 or 4 of them, which really upsets me. So far I haven't had one severe enough to send me to the hospital, gratefully.

About a decade ago, I had two colds within about 3 months. On the second virus, it got into my ear and I spent 9 or 10 months on disability because I was so dizzy, just moving around made me feel sea sick. The doctor (same one I have now) had me go through a ton of tests. After nothing else turned up, the verdict was the virus in my inner ear. The only cure was time.

If that ever happened to me, I think I'd push for trying a dental device. I've been 100% compliant with my CPAP machine, but if I get to the point where my nosebleeds are sending me to the hospital again, we could have a problem.

This definitely takes getting used to. I used to be a really good sleeper. I fell asleep within minutes of going to bed and I woke up 7 hours later, feeling completely refreshed. I was not tired during the day. I was not cranky. I never felt like I was going to sleep while driving. I had no symptoms whatsoever of sleep apnea. You could have knocked me over with a feather when they said I had it. The doctor made me do a sleep study because of my obesity.

Now I hate going to bed, I get up way too early and I won't ever nap during the day. A few times I've awaken throwing that stupid mask off me. It has destroyed my love of sleeping. I really hate it, but I have stuck with it. Only the fear they put into you if you don't wear it has kept me going with it. I don't like it, but I will continue.

Thanks for replying when I probably should have made my own post in the first place.

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According to my doctors i was diagnosed with accute bronchitis in the beginning of August 2016. It is now 30th of October and i am still suffering from it. I am generally speaking resistant to colds and flus, some reason of it is because i spend 8 hours a day in a car with people coughing their bacteria all over me. However after 1 month of using the trial machine i became very ill. Meaning having the symptoms of bronchitis/whooping cough. After a nasal swab i got cleared from whooping cough. The doctors here in Australia do not prescribe antibiotics unless you're about to die as a general rule. 1st doctor sent me home telling "it's viral". 39°C high fever, coughing my lungs out, green mucus coming out, throwing out, not able to stand.... A week later my usual doctor gave me 3 days worth of Clarythromycin. Sort of helped but then the ilness came back worse. He gave me 7 days of it and then things smoothed out. All this time i uaed the CPAP. Both my GP as well as the GP as well the lab that gave me the machine reccomended to atay off CPAP till getting better. The moment i use the CPAP, mucus comes back, horrible cough that i loose oxygen.

I lost balance several times and one time i fell off my feet. My explanation is that i get deprived of oxygen momentarily during the cough episode. I'm perfect after. During the days i don't use the machine my lungs are improving and when i use it i feel weak sick and cough my lungs out. I have a brand spanking new top of range $3000 machine with humidifier and heated hose, i clean it and behold the machine is DAILY cleaned daily for 10 minutes by the best cleaning sytem: Soclean. Water used is demineralised, replaced daily. There is no reason to believe contamination is the cause. I can't put my finger onto what causes this but i will have to investigate further with my GO and specialist to see what causes this. I will ask for further swab samples be taken and analysed in lab to show what the hell is going on. I rest fine without the machine, however it does not allow for deep sleep which cause depression.
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#45
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I have been on cpap for about 3.5 months, I have been having issues with using it as it triggers ptsd and anxiety issues so I am sleeping even less now then before. Now on top of those issues I have chronic bronchitis and have gotten my yearly case of it where I am coughing so hard I end up with headaches, dizziness and find myself having difficulty breathing. I have read several researches on the issue some favorable and some not. I know this is not "medical" advice on this forum but I could use some help with whither I should keep using my cpap or take a break
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(02-12-2017, 04:24 AM)Mwinters owls Wrote: I have been on cpap for about 3.5 months, I have been having issues with using it as it triggers ptsd and anxiety issues so I am sleeping even less now then before. Now on top of those issues I have chronic bronchitis and have gotten my yearly case of it where I am coughing so hard I end up with headaches, dizziness and find myself having difficulty breathing. I have read several researches on the issue some favorable and some not. I know this is not "medical" advice on this forum but I could use some help with whither I should keep using my cpap or take a break

Hi winters owls,
No, we are not doctors here, buy may be able to advise according to our experiences.

Can't say too much about PTSD, but this is more than likely a condition you had before Cpap use, and hopefully one that you are being treated for.

If you are looking not to use Cpap due to bronchitis and PTSD, as those conditions may contibute to your anxiety, it's best that you get your doctor on board.  Clearly, there are medications that may help.

We can help you adjust your machine to help you feel more comfortable. Possibly a lower pressure or switching to Auto mode. Are you using EPR, ramp? There are comfort settings that can be utilized.
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#47
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Dreamstation, first you should know that so far, no medication actually works for bronchitis. Second, it is also possible, if this thing is hanging on, that you have silent acid reflux. I developed the problem after having bronchitis. The silent acid reflux created chronic post nasal drip which gives many of the same symptoms as chronic bronchitis (without the fever though). The 'cure' was to take 40 mg of Prilosec. Cpap can make acid reflux worse for some people. For me, it just made it worse for about a week and then settled down.
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#48
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Actually, I disagree with Mosquitobait.

For bronchitis, if it is viral, you work on symptom relief to the extent it does not cause other problems.  And know that any respiratory condition may leave your lungs irritated for a good 2 months after clearing an active infection. Longer if you have another lung problem such as asthma, COPD, and so on.

Discuss the following with your physician:

For bacterial infections, an antibiotic would be added. 

If a fever with either, fever management - aspirin or acetaminophen - may be helpful. Severe fever at home may be dropped with an extremely cold shower (obnoxious, I know). In a hospital, they might actually pack you in a cooling blanket to avoid a temp so high you go into seizures.

If you have a productive cough and it is getting mucus out of your lungs effectively, suppressing the cough is a bad idea. You could wind up with pneumonia plugging up your lungs.

For an overly productive cough with very thin mucus triggering constant coughing that needs some drying and thus cough reduction, diphenhydramine (ex Benadryl), may both dry the cough some and reduce some of the coughing.

For a dry cough, some suppression to reduce coughing may be helpful. Medications for that include benzonatate sodium (Tessalon Perle is a brand; it calms the stretch receptors in the lungs to reduce cough being triggered.), and hydrocodone (a semisynthetic narcotic that may slow down your GI tract).

For extremely dry cough, a mucolytic will provoke more mucous production to help your lungs clear thick sticky secretions which may contain bacteria or virus particles and be irritating. Steam and drinking a fair bit of water may help, but guafenesin is often suggested (ex. Mucinex).

I have cough variant asthma. The Tessalon Perle is very helpful to me for dry cough, as is a low dose of the hydrocodone (really knocks me out).

As with all meds, your mileage may vary.

(p.s. in a former life, I worked a drug abuse hotline, looked up these drugs numerous times, and explained their effects to callers.)
                                                                                                                          
Note: I'm an epidemiologist, not a medical provider. 
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#49
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I don't disagree with your post Beej, but I guess I maybe didn't make it clear that the poster should see their doctor since symptoms are lingering. Self treating a lingering cough week after week generally isn't the best choice unless you already know there is an issue (as in your case with the asthma).
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#50
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No worries; I agree with her discussing this with her physician, as I noted at the top of the post. (And went back and bolded so it would be obvious!)
                                                                                                                          
Note: I'm an epidemiologist, not a medical provider. 
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