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Post: #11
RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
The machine, once adjusted properly will keep you functioning and KEEP you ALIVE.

The price to pay is small.

Cheers!

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07-30-2015 05:47 PM
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CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

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Post: #12
RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
Welcome dasjell!

I do think you will feel satisfaction when you are convinced you are getting the best treatment. That comes with proper adjustments, time, and gradual confidence. The CPAP therapy seems foreign to most new users, and the brain and body sometimes take a while to accept the strange feeling. That, in itself can disturb sleep until assimilation occurs.

At this point, it is more likely that you do have adjustments that make sense to try. So, investigate software choices, and get some real info to share and compare. Straight off, I am guessing disruptions are related to leakage, skin sensitivity, humidity, and mask fit.

Since you have a deviated septum, you may get better results laying on one side versus another. Data can help you determine that, but minus data - you may also just sleep on one side primarily for a couple nights and compare.

Any of the adjustments take some time, so keep being patient. Smile

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08-01-2015 06:33 AM
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Machine: Resmed Myair - Airsense 10 autoset
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Post: #13
RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
Ok everyone. I imported data into sleeepyhead but was really looking for data on how I fall into and out of deep and light stage sleep. I think that may be the problem and why my numbers look good but I still feel tired in the morning.

Teeth clench up going from deep to light sleep and I think I am not getting the deep sleep I need because of my deviated septum - CPAP may not be the answer. Thoughts?


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08-08-2015 03:24 PM
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Machine: REMstar System One with Autoflex
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Quattro AirFit F10
Humidifier: yes typical setting = 4
CPAP Pressure: 5-13 Autotritrating CPAP
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: CMS-50F Plus oximeter /w SPO2 Assistant software. Avowed mouth-breather switching to nose-breathing

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RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
From your numbers, it looks like you are getting good therapy. It also shows that the machine is "reacting" to issues of obstructive airflow, because it shows your 90% pressure being significantly above your minimum pressure. It's nice to see that, so far, your pressure does not approach the 14 cmH2O level (your maximum pressure setting). You could adjust the minimum/starting pressure slowly to approach your 90% pressure. I have seen others suggest that your minimum should be within 2 cmH2O of the 90% pressure, or 7.5 cmH2O in your case. So changing your settings from 6 - 14 to 7.5 - 14 would be a good step.

As for your "clenching", how do you know you do this, and that it coincides with you changing from deep to light sleep? If you are feeling some pain or discomfort, is it at the tooth/gum line or at the jaw hinge point (side burns/next to ear region)?

Good luck.

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08-10-2015 02:50 AM
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RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
Quiescence - Thank you for responding.

Jaw feels sore most mornings and the dentist who I went to see for sleep dental device (which he didn't recommend I get) said that often times when the jaw feels sore or tired in the morning then it's a sign that I am not getting enough deep sleep. My teeth are also flattened on the service which is a sign that I am clenching.

My fitbit (showing restlessness events) and CPAP don't really show the levels of sleep so its tough to know.

I'll be trying the full mask soon just to see the difference between that and the pillows. Maybe that will help.
08-10-2015 01:22 PM
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Post: #16
RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
The information on your Daily Details would be much more useful than summary stats. I have seen people that have low AHI and decent therapy hours but their sleep is very fragmented with discontinuations of the therapy. There are also things that don't tend to show up in AHI like flow limitations and RERA which can have a profound effect on feeling rested.

I agree with QAL, the summary statistics look just fine. There are so many causes for fragmented or poor sleep that go beyond sleep apnea that it's frustrating when CPAP doesn't turn out to be the ultimate cure. Apnea may just be a part of the problem and can't cure stress, poor sleep hygiene, psychological issues, RLS and many other causes of poor sleep.

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08-10-2015 02:10 PM
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Post: #17
RE: CPAP not making me happy - help
(07-30-2015 03:38 PM)dasjell Wrote:  Thank you everyone for your support! It looks like I'm not the only one who has sleep apnea. I will say this though, I am looking for a better night sleep with CPAP . . .I don't merely want to survive. I want to function throughout the day and feel good . . . otherwise what's the use.

Before I take my SD card out of my machine I want to make sure that sleepyhead supports this model Airsense 10. Sleepyhead documentation doesn't seem to include that model but that info could be old. I will post graph once I get the answer.

Another alternative I am told is to press both the machine home button and the dial and hold for 3 sec. to get more detailed stats. Worried though that it might erase some data.

I can say that yes Sleepy Head does support the ResMed Air Sense 10. If you don't feel rested after being on the machine it can be due to not being able to get into a deep sleep with it. Maybe you are making it to stage 2 only. This would account for feeling sleepy in the morning. It may mean that you need to get used to having the mask on, and in some cases doctors have given patients sleeping pills to help them sleep for the first week or two. It will help you once you are able to sleep with it and not wake up or have RERA's. Sleepy Head will tell you what is going on so get the card and use the software. Hang in there it takes a lot of time and patience to get it to work.
08-10-2015 03:07 PM
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