Post Reply 
Can silicone be refreshed?
Author Message
carlquib Offline

Members

Posts: 4
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: REMstar A-Flex
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro air
Humidifier: System one Humid
CPAP Pressure: 13
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: southern Idaho

Post: #1
Can silicone be refreshed?
I have a Quattro Air FFM that I have been using for almost two months. As time has passed the seals on the mask have gotten less effective. I have to tighten the mask more to get it to seal properly. Are there any materials that can be used to refresh the silicone seal and restore the original pliabililty or is the answer to just replace the cushion more often?
10-30-2013 01:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
justMongo Offline

Monitors

Posts: 3,851
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: ResMed VPAP Auto (S9)
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Mirage Quattro
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18 IPAPmax - 11 EPAPmin, PS=5
CPAP Software: Other Software

Other Comments: μολὼν λαβέ

Sex: Male
Location: Калифорния

Post: #2
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Replace the cushion. Anything you might apply is likely to irritate your skin.
The mask cushions do lose their spring -- and a leaky mask is a pain.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
10-30-2013 01:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
britincanada Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 81
Joined: Aug 2012

Machine: Respironics BiBpapautoSV Advanced
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model:
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: unsure
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Canada

Post: #3
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Try boiling in water with Bakeing soda for ten mins that should get you a few more mths use
10-30-2013 02:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
zonk Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 7,908
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #4
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Have you tried a mask liner
I can see pad a cheek got a mask liner for Quattro Air
10-30-2013 04:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
trish6hundred Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 6,446
Joined: May 2012

Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

Sex: Female
Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #5
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Hi carlquib,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
When I wash my mask, hose and humidifier chamber once a week in mild, warm, soapy water, I lightly rub my cushion, mask frame and the hose end that connects with the maskwith a soft rag and that makes them tacky so they will stay with your face better but of course, YMMV.
Hope this helps you and best of luck to you with your CPAP therapy.

trish6hundred
10-30-2013 06:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Peter_C Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 1,308
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: System One DS960HS
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage Quattro "MED"
Humidifier: Attached
CPAP Pressure: Auto mode-script is:15/3/3
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic Other Software

Other Comments: Severe obstructive sleep apnea 1999/Just got an ASV machine

Sex: Male
Location: Akron, Ohio USA

Post: #6
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Silly question? **HOW** are you washing your mask? Please tell us in detail? What soap (if any) cold, warm, or hot water, any other chemicals or fluids used?

A few notes. The soap used is actually very critical to the life of the mask (seal), if the soap is not simple/plain it may have stuff in it that will damage the mask/seals. Do not use antibacterial soap, or anything with any type of lotion in it (like Dove, etc). I used to use plair yellow Dial soap til I learned that was bad, no I use a simple dish soap called "JOY". Rather than baking soda and boiling, I prefer half hot tap water and vinegar, and let soak for 30 minutes.

Perhaps it is due to how many years I've been using masks, but I can easily get a year (or longer) from a mask. Food for thought?

*I* am not a DOCTOR or any type of Health Care Professional. My thoughts/suggestions/ideas are strictly only my opinions.

"Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you. Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your Soul, the other for your Freedom."
10-30-2013 11:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
carlquib Offline

Members

Posts: 4
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: REMstar A-Flex
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro air
Humidifier: System one Humid
CPAP Pressure: 13
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: southern Idaho

Post: #7
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Thanks for all the suggestions. I wash my stuff with hot water and plain dawn dish soap daily, although I did use CitrusII CPAP mask wipes a few time when I was in a hurry or traveling. They are supposed to be alcohol and solvent free. Don't know if that shortened the life of the sealing surface. What kind of life span can one expect from a seal like the Quattro Air if washed with just soap and hot water on a daily basis? I don't think I could get anything close to a year, but that may be due to my skin. I will try the rubbing first and see if that helps if not I will progress to some of the other methods presented. I have nothing to lose since it isn't sealing well now.

I haven't tried a mask liner but am going to try in the near future. I am still a fairly light sleeper and leaks tend to bother me. Do the mask liners help with facial hair tolerance? I really hate shaving twice a day!
10-31-2013 12:56 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
JJJ Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 751
Joined: Apr 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Most recent: Wisp, Pilairo, Mirage Vista
Humidifier: ResMed S9 Autoset
CPAP Pressure: 17-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: USA 97217

Post: #8
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
(10-31-2013 12:56 AM)carlquib Wrote:  I haven't tried a mask liner but am going to try in the near future. I am still a fairly light sleeper and leaks tend to bother me. Do the mask liners help with facial hair tolerance? I really hate shaving twice a day!

I have had a terrible time with leaks. I tried liners (several brands), but none were worth a darn.

I cannot address the facial hair issue, as I have practically none. Not because I shave a lot, I just never produce much. At best I can grow a pathetic mustache, and that's about all.

The only thing I have found that works to keep the leaks down to an acceptable level (<24 L) is a custom chin strap on top of a nasal mask (Wisp) underneath. The chin strap helps hold the mask in place as I dance around in the bed while asleep.
10-31-2013 01:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
djjwilly Offline

Preferred Members-2

Posts: 62
Joined: Mar 2013

Machine: Elite S9
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed AirFit P10 and chinstrap
Humidifier: Resmed Elite H 5i
CPAP Pressure: 10
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments:

Sex: Female
Location:

Post: #9
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Not sure if this will help any, but Medicare replaces cushions once a month. I thought that was excessive myself at first, but what did I know. I began this journey last January. I suffered through many trials of various types of cushions and masks which I always had to clamp down on my head so hard they hurt. Hence, I couldn't use any and always passed on to the next. Then the light bulb went off after I read a medicare form that was on the counter at the office. Medicare replaces once a month, ideally. The person has to go in and get the replacement, of course, it's not handed out. Pillow replacements are 2 per month, groups of six for three months at a time. I got ticked once I realized all the trials were for naught because the cushions were ok looking, but much older than one month. How can you have a decent trial with a cushion that "looks ok." That's what my DME rep said when I asked her about the trail cushions. In other words, during trials, old cushions are used. Straps need to be tightened like heck and hopefully a seal is reached, but not often. The medicare process is prolonged and aggravated my old cushions. It took me months and many trip to the DME to figure this out. I also made an extreme pest of myself to the point I hate to even call them now. I have tmj syndrome, jaw pain. How could I ever get a decent mask trialing old worn out cushions? I ended up with the ones I have now, thank God, after an exhaustive search. My ff mask is light and therefore I'm able to live with it. Please realize for some hairbrained reason the cushions are designed to quickly become obsolete. I haven't figured out how yet. I think it's because of their flimsy designs. Sure enough, now I mostly use the pillows, and yes, when the seal begins to not seal too well I pop in a replacement and then I'm back in the saddle. Sorry for the length of this, but hopefully it will save some of you a world of suffering and trying to figure out what's going on. Love, DJ
10-31-2013 04:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
archangle Offline
Wiki Editor
Advisory Members

Posts: 3,159
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed S9 H5i
CPAP Pressure: 16-20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: Happy PAPper

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: USA

Post: #10
RE: Can silicone be refreshed?
Once you get a spare set or two, experiment. Get spares as soon as your insurance will allow until you have two or more spares.

Quite a few people have reported success with boiling, but I'd only suggest it on spare parts.

Some have even reported success with baking the silicone parts in an oven.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
Useful links.
Click here for information on the main alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check it yourself.
10-31-2013 10:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  System One humidifier silicone seals big_dave 3 516 04-23-2016 12:08 PM
Last Post: Sleeprider
  How long to feel refreshed? zonk 35 14,691 05-18-2013 02:33 PM
Last Post: crazychef
  Resmed silicone cushions thymes1@aol.com 8 4,833 02-11-2013 09:39 AM
Last Post: AuntElizabeth
  DeVilbiss EasyFit Silicone Nasal Mask lonnieb 2 1,683 08-21-2012 05:30 PM
Last Post: zonk

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)