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Austin Offline

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Chin straps
Hello! I am new to this forum and have been using a CPAP machine since Monday night. The pressure is still in test mode for another couple of weeks. I am trying to learn as much as I can to make this as comfortable experience as possible.

I am using a nasal pillow and was given a chin strap to keep my mouth closed. The first night I was unable to keep the chin strap on as I kept feeling like I wasn't getting enough air. I kept yawning over and over and eventually threw it across the room. I'm even yawning right now just thinking about that chin strap!

I'm sure it is all psychological but I just can't imagine not being able to open my mouth at all while I'm sleeping. Can anyone shed some light on what I need to do here?

Thank you!
06-09-2016 04:09 PM
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Post: #2
RE: Chin straps
Welcome Austin!

sounds like you really need a full face mask. I'm in the same boat as you and need to have an open mouth while sleeping. even then i still use a chip strap to reduce mask leaks from too much mouth opening.

i've found this part of the process to be all trial and error.

best of luck
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06-09-2016 06:53 PM
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Post: #3
RE: Chin straps
Hello, Austin. Welcome to the board.

If you are not having mouth leaks you won't need a chin strap. If you do need the chin strap perhaps you can wear it while you are not sleeping to get used to it. I wouldn't be able to use nasal pillows if I didn't wear one.

Keep in mind that the chin strap is only supposed to help you keep your mouth closed. It only needs to be tight enough to do so. If it is adjustable maybe you can play with the tension to make it a little more comfortable.

Good luck with your treatment.

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06-09-2016 06:53 PM
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Post: #4
RE: Chin straps
Welcome Austin
It takes time and patience to get used to any part of the cpap experience. Some of the things that helped me cope was that I put the chin strap on over the pillows mask. Also I had to go to a larger size pillow insert. My original prescription was a starting pressure of 4 and I felt starved for air until an event happened and the machine raised it. I raised it to 5 and am thinking of going higher.

After 3 months I have learned to yawn any time the urge strikes. Just has to be less than 10 seconds or it registers an apnea.

It can be discouraging at times but it gets better.

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06-09-2016 07:13 PM
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Post: #5
RE: Chin straps
Hi Austin,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Good luck to you with finding a chinstrap.
Hang in there for more suggestions, much success to you with your CPAP therapy.

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06-09-2016 07:39 PM
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Post: #6
RE: Chin straps
Hi Austin. Welcome to the Apnea Board.

Is your chin strap adjustable? It sounds like it may be too tight.

Do you normally have any problems breathing comfortably through your nose while you're sleeping without CPAP? If you do, you may need a full-face mask.

What is your starting CPAP pressure? The standard machines range from 4-20 cm H2O. If your equipment provider didn't change the bottom number, that will put you at 4 cm, which doesn't seem to be enough pressure for most people to feel like they can get enough air. If you're starting off at 4 cm, you might ask to get that changed to 5.

You could also experiment with sleeping without the chin strap. If you are opening your mouth too much, it will show up as "large leak" and your machine will tell you.

I just switched to nasal pillows about 3 weeks ago. I noticed the first few nights that I used them that I could feel the pressure trying to push my tongue forward (which will let air leak from the mouth if it moves far enough.) I adapted after about 3 nights, and I don't feel that anymore.

I really, really like the nasal pillows. There's almost nothing on my face compared to other types of masks. The trade-off, though, is having to be able to keep your mouth closed, or at least closed enough not to cause large leaks.


(06-09-2016 04:09 PM)Austin Wrote:  Hello! I am new to this forum and have been using a CPAP machine since Monday night. The pressure is still in test mode for another couple of weeks. I am trying to learn as much as I can to make this as comfortable experience as possible.

I am using a nasal pillow and was given a chin strap to keep my mouth closed. The first night I was unable to keep the chin strap on as I kept feeling like I wasn't getting enough air. I kept yawning over and over and eventually threw it across the room. I'm even yawning right now just thinking about that chin strap!

I'm sure it is all psychological but I just can't imagine not being able to open my mouth at all while I'm sleeping. Can anyone shed some light on what I need to do here?

Thank you!
06-09-2016 07:46 PM
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