Post Reply 
Climate Control Settings
Author Message
Apapuser Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 38
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: PR Systen One 60 series
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 Airfit/Aloha
Humidifier: system one 60 series heated humidifier with heated tube
CPAP Pressure: Auto 6 - 9
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Florida

Post: #1
Climate Control Settings
I have a 5Hi heated humidifier with climateline heated tube. Climate control on clinicians menu is set to patient. Patient menu is set to Auto. Temperature setting set to 82. I do not feel like I am getting enough humidity however and the water level has only gone down a fraction of an inch in two nights of use. Is this normal ? Are there better settings popularly used here ?
01-10-2014 01:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
PaulaO2 Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 8,068
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #2
RE: Climate Control Settings
The machine uses ambient humidity as a guideline. If it detects the room is already humid, then it will use less.

You can change the setting to manual which allow you to set the humidity and temp manually. You should get more humidity to your nose that way.

Some nights I use no water at all. Some nights, I run out before I wake up. Depends on the temperature and humidity of the room. If it is raining and not as cold, I don't use as much.

PaulaO2
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Breathe deeply and count to zen.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
01-10-2014 01:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
bavinck Offline

Members

Posts: 17
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 8 cm
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Alberta, Canada

Post: #3
RE: Climate Control Settings
The manual setting I like best as it allows me to separately control humidity and temperature. If set to auto, the machine will only add as much humidity as it thinks it needs to get an absolute humidity level to your mask. Using the manual settings allows you to force a higher humidity setting for any given temperature. I have my temperature set at 27 degrees Celcius (7 above room temp) and my humidity at 5.5. In my dry, cold climate I am finding this is working just fine and does not produce rainout. I go through about 1/2 a tank of water a night (6-7 hrs).
01-10-2014 02:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Apapuser Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 38
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: PR Systen One 60 series
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 Airfit/Aloha
Humidifier: system one 60 series heated humidifier with heated tube
CPAP Pressure: Auto 6 - 9
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Florida

Post: #4
RE: Climate Control Settings
Thanks Paula , Bavinck. I have set to Manual, Humidity 4, Temperature 82
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2014 06:01 PM by Apapuser.)
01-10-2014 06:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
bavinck Offline

Members

Posts: 17
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 8 cm
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Alberta, Canada

Post: #5
RE: Climate Control Settings
(01-10-2014 06:00 PM)Apapuser Wrote:  Thanks Paula , Bavinck. I have set to Manual, Humidity 4, Temperature 82

Try for a night or two. I suggest if you need to make a change (too dry or.temp), change only one setting at a time. You start changing 2,variables at a time and it will get real hard to find a solution. A good idea might be to run in auto for a couple nights to find the temp setting you like, then switch to manual at the desired temp and begin to mess with the humidity options.
01-10-2014 06:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Apapuser Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 38
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: PR Systen One 60 series
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 Airfit/Aloha
Humidifier: system one 60 series heated humidifier with heated tube
CPAP Pressure: Auto 6 - 9
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Florida

Post: #6
RE: Climate Control Settings
(01-10-2014 02:19 PM)bavinck Wrote:  The manual setting I like best as it allows me to separately control humidity and temperature. If set to auto, the machine will only add as much humidity as it thinks it needs to get an absolute humidity level to your mask. Using the manual settings allows you to force a higher humidity setting for any given temperature. I have my temperature set at 27 degrees Celcius (7 above room temp) and my humidity at 5.5. In my dry, cold climate I am finding this is working just fine and does not produce rainout. I go through about 1/2 a tank of water a night (6-7 hrs).

(01-10-2014 06:10 PM)bavinck Wrote:  
(01-10-2014 06:00 PM)Apapuser Wrote:  Thanks Paula , Bavinck. I have set to Manual, Humidity 4, Temperature 82

Try for a night or two. I suggest if you need to make a change (too dry or.temp), change only one setting at a time. You start changing 2,variables at a time and it will get real hard to find a solution. A good idea might be to run in auto for a couple nights to find the temp setting you like, then switch to manual at the desired temp and begin to mess with the humidity options.

Hi Bavinck

Perhaps I am confused. I had Auto & Temp 82. I changed to manual. Temperature 82, Humidity 4

I thought that a change of Humidity only

Apapuser
01-10-2014 06:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
bavinck Offline

Members

Posts: 17
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 8 cm
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Alberta, Canada

Post: #7
RE: Climate Control Settings
In auto mode you set the temp, and the machine works out the humidity to (I think) 80% absolute humidity regardless of your temp setting. Same humidity no matter which temp. In manual mode you set both the temp and humidity levels you want, the machine does not force a 80% humidity level. In the s9 clinicians manual they have charts that outline how the machine is handling temp/humidity combos in manual mode, you can get that manual here on this forum. Hope that helps.
01-10-2014 06:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Apapuser Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 38
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: PR Systen One 60 series
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 Airfit/Aloha
Humidifier: system one 60 series heated humidifier with heated tube
CPAP Pressure: Auto 6 - 9
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Florida

Post: #8
RE: Climate Control Settings
(01-10-2014 06:54 PM)bavinck Wrote:  In auto mode you set the temp, and the machine works out the humidity to (I think) 80% absolute humidity regardless of your temp setting. Same humidity no matter which temp. In manual mode you set both the temp and humidity levels you want, the machine does not force a 80% humidity level. In the s9 clinicians manual they have charts that outline how the machine is handling temp/humidity combos in manual mode, you can get that manual here on this forum. Hope that helps.

My understanding is that the 80 % figure refers to the relative amount of humidity the air can hold at any given temperature. Higher temperatures are capable of holding more humidity in Mg/L. The higher you set the temperature the more humidity in Mg/L you get. Auto at any given temperature would be limited by the 80% figure. Manual would not but if you adjust the Humidity setting too high at a given temperature you can reach the 100 % humidity figure and produce rainout. The option then would be to either increase the temperature or lower the humidity.

Apapuser
01-10-2014 08:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
bavinck Offline

Members

Posts: 17
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 8 cm
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Alberta, Canada

Post: #9
RE: Climate Control Settings
(01-10-2014 08:17 PM)Apapuser Wrote:  
(01-10-2014 06:54 PM)bavinck Wrote:  In auto mode you set the temp, and the machine works out the humidity to (I think) 80% absolute humidity regardless of your temp setting. Same humidity no matter which temp. In manual mode you set both the temp and humidity levels you want, the machine does not force a 80% humidity level. In the s9 clinicians manual they have charts that outline how the machine is handling temp/humidity combos in manual mode, you can get that manual here on this forum. Hope that helps.

My understanding is that the 80 % figure refers to the relative amount of humidity the air can hold at any given temperature. Higher temperatures are capable of holding more humidity in Mg/L. The higher you set the temperature the more humidity in Mg/L you get. Auto at any given temperature would be limited by the 80% figure. Manual would not but if you adjust the Humidity setting too high at a given temperature you can reach the 100 % humidity figure and produce rainout. The option then would be to either increase the temperature or lower the humidity.

Apapuser

This is correct, I meant to have written 80% relative, not absolute, humidity. Thanks for the clarification.
01-10-2014 11:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Apapuser Offline

Preferred Members

Posts: 38
Joined: Dec 2013

Machine: PR Systen One 60 series
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 Airfit/Aloha
Humidifier: system one 60 series heated humidifier with heated tube
CPAP Pressure: Auto 6 - 9
CPAP Software: EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Florida

Post: #10
RE: Climate Control Settings
Hey Bavinck

Had a good night last night.

0 central Apneas, 0 Obstructive Apneas, 0 Hypopneas, AHI 0

Leak Median 0, Leak 95% 0 , Leak Max 8.2

Ran with the Humidifier Manual, 82 degrees, 4.0

Upped Humidity to 4.5 as I still feel I can use a little more humidity

PS noticed more water use

My results have gotten much better after switching out the Swift FX DME gave me for my favorite Aloha on second night

Apapuser
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2014 08:57 AM by Apapuser.)
01-11-2014 08:56 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Dream Station Ramp and Pressure Settings knowoneuno 27 592 Yesterday 09:02 PM
Last Post: Russatrice
  Climate line hose vs mask - adapter to connect? Beej 4 146 12-08-2016 05:57 PM
Last Post: Beej
  Newbie - need advice on settings and machine tmc712 18 392 12-06-2016 09:04 PM
Last Post: tmc712
  Dream Station Settings Autumnseer 15 568 11-26-2016 07:01 AM
Last Post: Weird Tolkienish Figure
  Who generally is in charge of your CPAP settings? Mezzrow 9 486 11-12-2016 01:47 AM
Last Post: blueelement2016
  Cleaning Climate-control tube on ResMed Air Sense 10 GL Bishop 18 11,362 11-07-2016 03:31 PM
Last Post: Jonesie
  [Equipment] ResMed climate line dracs 3 274 11-05-2016 01:33 PM
Last Post: trish6hundred

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)