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RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
I have the Climate control tubing. It doesn't cause rainout at all. The DME told me that's the purpose of the thing. My question is, is something amiss if the humidifier doesn't use much water? I can't see why it doesn't. My house is older than dirt and really dry. Occasionally it moves a teeny bit, but rarely. It's frustrating, but for some reason, my sinuses are getting used to it. A nurse at one of the DME offices I've been to said she sometimes fills her tank twice in one night!! I just don't get it. I have mine set about 72 or so. I'll try 80 and see what happens. Are we required to warm up the machine? I usually just turn it on and go to sleep. Thanks for any replies. I sincerely appreciate any help and hope I can be of help here also. God bless, DJ
08-24-2013 09:52 PM
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Post: #32
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
I use it on auto unless I'm using the Oracle mask then manual and top humidity. I use about a half tank per night.
08-24-2013 11:39 PM
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Post: #33
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
(08-24-2013 09:52 PM)djjwilly Wrote:  My question is, is something amiss if the humidifier doesn't use much water? ... I have mine set about 72 or so. I'll try 80 and see what happens. Are we required to warm up the machine? I usually just turn it on and go to sleep.

Hi djjwilly, welcome to the forum!

When Climate Control is set to Auto mode, the warmer the air temperature is set, the more moisture the air can hold and the faster the water gets used up.

No need to warm up the tank before use if you are not bothered by the amount of humidity being lower than usual for a few minutes; pre-heating and the humidity settings are personal preferences. Some people find they sleep better with a lot of humidity and others with less.

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08-25-2013 12:33 AM
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Post: #34
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
Haven't had my S9 through a winter yet. But we live in an area with very low humidity (usually below 15 percent) and I have run mine at 71 degrees. This time of year the nighttime temperature seldom gets below 70 until just before sunup.

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08-29-2013 08:33 PM
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Post: #35
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
Up to eleven.

It's one louder.

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Post: #36
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
I have been told that if you have water coming out from the tubing in your mask or whatever you may use, it is b/c the water chamber has been filled to the top line and it is recommended not to do that. Not sure if this is what is causing your problem but it is worth trying. I had water coming in my face mask a few times and now I never fill it to the top line and the problem has not happened again. hope this helps.
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Post: #37
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
Um, no, that's not it. Think about how that water from the over-full tank would have made it up the tube and into your mask. It can't happen. It was either coincidence or you have your machine higher than your head.

Water in the tube is called "rainout". It's when the air inside the tube is warmer than the room's air. The moisture in the hose air condenses on the hose's walls. It then pools in low spots and can making obnoxious snoring sounds. Rainout is the inside out version of when you have a cold can of Coke in a warm room. The condensation forms on the outside of the can. In CPAP case, it forms inside the hose.

I use the climateline but have the problem of condensation from my own breath causing water in the nasal pillows. Rather startling since when it drips back into my nostril, it can burn!

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Post: #38
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
I've never had a rain-out based on humidity in the line (I've typically been ~24oC and a 5.0 setting on the humidity). My issue right now is heat...since going to a nasal mask, I've found it very cool (which is why I'm currently at 26oC and 4.5...trying to warm the air hitting my nose). I'm just hoping my tubing didn't crap out on me Sad

Only time I had an issue with water in the hose was one bad sleep night....I rolled over a little too hard for being hooked up and sent a tidal wave down the hose when I almost pulled the CPAP off its stand Oh-jeez
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Post: #39
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
Paula02

I can only offer what my DME company told me about rain out. I had it happen 2 times, removed some of the water from the chamber and it quit. Not sure what else to say except what I was told, what I tried and what the results of that was.
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Post: #40
RE: Climate line tubing for the S9 - What setting?
(08-24-2013 09:52 PM)djjwilly Wrote:  I have the Climate control tubing. It doesn't cause rainout at all. The DME told me that's the purpose of the thing. My question is, is something amiss if the humidifier doesn't use much water? I can't see why it doesn't. My house is older than dirt and really dry. Occasionally it moves a teeny bit, but rarely. It's frustrating, but for some reason, my sinuses are getting used to it. A nurse at one of the DME offices I've been to said she sometimes fills her tank twice in one night!! I just don't get it. I have mine set about 72 or so. I'll try 80 and see what happens. Are we required to warm up the machine? I usually just turn it on and go to sleep. Thanks for any replies. I sincerely appreciate any help and hope I can be of help here also. God bless, DJ

Depends on your settings and machine, djjwilly. I hardly go through water (temp 28C/82F, auto-humidity at 5 our of 6)....with my normal ~6 hrs of sleep I could probably go 3-4 days without my tank running dry. It's comfortable enough for me and I don't have issues with drying out the nasal passages. My wife, on the other hand, has a F & P machine with a much larger humidifier tank and she's basically going through it in an 8 hr night.
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