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RE: Need Help[Do i need to buy a cpap]
I didn't feel much difference in the rest factor after and before using the machine.

But without machine i get lots of dreams and wakeup multiple time in the night, but with the machine didn't wake up much.

I got a new oxiometer and recorded over night without machine, I can see multiple time the SPO2 went as low as 85 %. I don't have machine now so cannot check with the machine

(10-17-2013 10:45 AM)Peter_C Wrote:  The big question is how do you *feel* after using the machine for a month? If you had 30 events an hour during a study, then yes, you can benefit from a CPAP. The numbers you posted show a drastic improvement compared to 30 events per hour, so it shows it is helping greatly. While only you can decide if the hassle and cost is worth it, please know that long-term 'sleep apnea' can cause severe and sometimes fatal health problems.

I went for my study because of my resting heart rate suddenly would not go below 122 (even with valium). Between CPAP/BI-PAP and my heart Doc and meds, some dozen years later my heart rate at rest is now 72 (off meds), and I no longer need to see the heart Doc. My heart issues were caused my long term untreated severe sleep apnea.

Everyone is different, but if it were me in your shoes (knowing what I know now) I would be living on CPAP, and yes, would buy one.


Thanks for you reply.
Which machine do you suggest ?


(10-18-2013 10:29 AM)RonWessels Wrote:  I will also echo in that you need a CPAP machine.

Your machine statistics are telling you that your apnea is well under control as it is treating you. So the question of whether you need the machine or not falls to how significantly the machine has to treat you.

The machine is configured to provide a variable as-required pressure. The median pressure that it is providing is 8.2 cmH2O, and 95% of your treatment is done with a pressure of 11.3 (or lower).

To give you an idea of these numbers, the machine can provide a maximum pressure of 20 cmH2O. So your machine is providing a "significant" pressure to keep your apnea under control. Hence the conclusion that you need such a machine.
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Post: #12
RE: Need Help[Do i need to buy a cpap]
Oh boy - what machine do I suggest?

Keep in mind, this is a Ford vs Chevy type question to a degree. You want the best machine you can get or afford to get. Data-capable for sure, and one you can 'grow' into in case your needs change.

Each of my (two) machines were the latest and greatest when I got them, but today, one belongs in a museum, and the other I can't pull data from. I like and prefer 'Resmed' machines, but only because that is all I have used. I think the 'autopap' 'autoset' feature is/can be a real boon.

Looking at the cost of these machines, and realizing you will have one for many, many years, while you may not need the bells and whistles right now, you might down the road.

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RE: Need Help[Do i need to buy a cpap]
Yes i agree Smile
need to start searching for a machine which come in my budget.


(10-20-2013 12:14 PM)Peter_C Wrote:  Oh boy - what machine do I suggest?

Keep in mind, this is a Ford vs Chevy type question to a degree. You want the best machine you can get or afford to get. Data-capable for sure, and one you can 'grow' into in case your needs change.

Each of my (two) machines were the latest and greatest when I got them, but today, one belongs in a museum, and the other I can't pull data from. I like and prefer 'Resmed' machines, but only because that is all I have used. I think the 'autopap' 'autoset' feature is/can be a real boon.

Looking at the cost of these machines, and realizing you will have one for many, many years, while you may not need the bells and whistles right now, you might down the road.
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(10-17-2013 04:07 AM)santhosh443 Wrote:  SPO2 saturation was also low as 76%.

-- Santhosh

Rereading this thread, I failed to spot this the first time. FYI - 76% is getting close to the 'smurf' zone, and if your O2 was randomly that low, most any DR would tell you to go to a hospital. Depending on how often, and for how long you are that low, brain cells can begin to die.

Different issue, but my father in-law died of COPD. The last few years of his life, there were many, many times when his O2 would drop into the 70s (time to go to the hospital) - but besides that, his memory started fading due to all the times his O2 dropped, he went from sharp as a tack, to telling me a story 10 minutes after he told me it the first time, like he was telling me for the first time - and this was at age 70.

The point being, this reason alone (depending again on how often and for how long) is enough to say you need to be on a CPAP ASAP!!

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RE: Need Help[Do i need to buy a cpap]
Thanks for you reply.

Here is india(bangalore).

I have three options.

1) philips auto(58,000)
2) resmed s9 auto set(60,000)
3) devilbisis sleepcube(54000).

All threee come in my budget. Which one do you guys think is better.

-- Santhsoh

(10-20-2013 03:41 PM)Peter_C Wrote:  
(10-17-2013 04:07 AM)santhosh443 Wrote:  SPO2 saturation was also low as 76%.

-- Santhosh

Rereading this thread, I failed to spot this the first time. FYI - 76% is getting close to the 'smurf' zone, and if your O2 was randomly that low, most any DR would tell you to go to a hospital. Depending on how often, and for how long you are that low, brain cells can begin to die.

Different issue, but my father in-law died of COPD. The last few years of his life, there were many, many times when his O2 would drop into the 70s (time to go to the hospital) - but besides that, his memory started fading due to all the times his O2 dropped, he went from sharp as a tack, to telling me a story 10 minutes after he told me it the first time, like he was telling me for the first time - and this was at age 70.

The point being, this reason alone (depending again on how often and for how long) is enough to say you need to be on a CPAP ASAP!!
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(10-23-2013 05:43 AM)santhosh443 Wrote:  Thanks for you reply.

Here is india(bangalore).

I have three options.

1) philips auto(58,000)
2) resmed s9 auto set(60,000)
3) devilbisis sleepcube(54000).

All threee come in my budget. Which one do you guys think is better.

-- Santhsoh
You cannot go wrong with either ResMed S9 AutoSet or Phillips Repironcis System One Auto
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What zonk said, although make sure the PRS1 is a 60 series.
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RE: Need Help[Do i need to buy a cpap]
S9 AutoSet is an excellent machine. Be sure it's not an S9 Escape Auto. That one is much more limited in the data it collects.

The PRS1 (Philips) Auto is another good machine. I slightly prefer the S9 AutoSet, but wouldn't argue too hard with someone who wants the PRS1.

The S9 and PRS1 have better data access than the Devilbiss. This can literally be a lifesaver if you have problems with CPAP.

Get a humidifier with whatever machine you get.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
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FYI - most everyone I know needs, uses, and loves having a humidifier, the only exception I know of is my wife. For myself personally, I just can't use my machine if it did not have a humidifier! If I happen to run out of water in it for just part of one night, I will sneeze for hours the next day and have a very sore nose.

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Now that I have the top of the line PRS1 Auto SV machine it is so noisy, and refuses to let me see my data, I really wish I had stuck with Resmed. I will be attempting to return the PRS 1and get the Resmed.


(10-23-2013 05:43 AM)santhosh443 Wrote:  Thanks for you reply.

Here is india(bangalore).

I have three options.

1) philips auto(58,000)
2) resmed s9 auto set(60,000)
3) devilbisis sleepcube(54000).

All threee come in my budget. Which one do you guys think is better.

-- Santhsoh

(10-20-2013 03:41 PM)Peter_C Wrote:  
(10-17-2013 04:07 AM)santhosh443 Wrote:  SPO2 saturation was also low as 76%.

-- Santhosh

Rereading this thread, I failed to spot this the first time. FYI - 76% is getting close to the 'smurf' zone, and if your O2 was randomly that low, most any DR would tell you to go to a hospital. Depending on how often, and for how long you are that low, brain cells can begin to die.

Different issue, but my father in-law died of COPD. The last few years of his life, there were many, many times when his O2 would drop into the 70s (time to go to the hospital) - but besides that, his memory started fading due to all the times his O2 dropped, he went from sharp as a tack, to telling me a story 10 minutes after he told me it the first time, like he was telling me for the first time - and this was at age 70.

The point being, this reason alone (depending again on how often and for how long) is enough to say you need to be on a CPAP ASAP!!
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