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[Diagnosis] paulauf - Therapy Thread
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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
Referring back to the collar, I am not a collar guy but do have some info that may help you.

As I understand it, the preference is for a soft foam cervical 2.5 to 3 inches tall with a comfortable loose fit to put light pressure on the back of the jaw may help keep the mouth closed, helping dry mouth and positional apnea. There are several sizes (heights) so pick the one that fits. Some users cover the collar with McKesson “stockinette” to keep perspiration odor under control. Collar brands include coreflex, coreline, and perhaps other brands of which I am unaware. No overwhelming brand preference to my knowledge. BTW, props to you on creating a DIY collar.
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#22
RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
Doggonit, I left the SD card in the laptop. It wasn't a good night's sleep either. Hopefully tonight will be better.
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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
May I suggest obtaining a second SD card.  When you remove one for data importing, immediately insert the other card in the CPAP.  That way you will always have a card in the machine.  The only downside to this approach is all your data will be spread over 2 cards.  Also, instead of a direct import of the data into OSCAR from the card, create a dedicated directory on your computer for the SD's data.  You will then use this directory to import the data into OSCAR.  This will provide an archive of your older data and a safe backup if a card should go south. (Note to self; why don't bad things that happen, go north? Thinking-about)

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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
The Futuro collar (post DIY) wasn't comfortable and not tall enough even though it was advertised as adjustable from 2.5" to 5". The best I could get was 3.5" and I even tried it upside down. I ordered the Coreflex at 4.5" which does keep my mouth shut and stopped the CSR-like patterns. What I don't like about it is it pushes on the Airfit straps on the back of my neck which leaves welts. I will have to research other mask options. I'm wondering if the collar would keep my mouth closed enough to use a nose mask.
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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
Last night was better. pressure 9 to 12 and EPR 2. Attached is one of the dramatic events. Any idea what is going on at these times?


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AHI down to 0.86, but I still have this pattern all night long. What is it and should I be concerned?


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AHI back over 2. Mostly CA and H and a couple OA. I keep seeing this pattern all night. Anyone know what's going on when it's happening?


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Can anyone tell me what is gaining on during this pattern? It happens all night, but isn't flagged. The pressure does change though. Should I make any changes to the settings?


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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
The pattern is a form of Periodic Breathing. I'm not seeing a reason for it.
Are you sure you're breathing this way "the whole night"? You are showing us 10-15 minute segment.

Can you take a look at other times of the night where there are no events and show a 3-4 minute time frame. For your own peace of mind, go through the flow rate from start to end and document if that pattern of breathing is all night.

Also, how do you sleep? Were you awake during this time frame you posted?

I recommend that you turn off the ramp, and start your min. pressure at 9 or 10 with
EPR 3 for a night or two.

If anyone else has advice for paulauf, please chime in!
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RE: paulauf - Therapy Thread
My theory, based on some things Gideon said about apneac threshold, is that mild periodic breathing may be caused by slightly too much ventilation, just as we see CA's when there is too much EPR or pressure support.

So my theory suggests backing off the EPR by 1 and see if the tidal volume smooths out. Try it for a few days and report back. Remember, it's a theory, and you are my (first?) guinea pig Big Grin

PS - your CA may decrease as well. If so, bonus!
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