Post Reply 
Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
Author Message
player Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 412
Joined: Feb 2015

Machine: Resmed A10 Autoset For Her
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed A10
Humidifier: Resmed A10 Autosset
CPAP Pressure: 11-16
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: It's a... mad world...

Sex: Male
Location: Canada

Post: #1
Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
Does anyone make a humidifier that uses UV light to sterilize the water?

If that existed, then the tank could be made to hold enough water for a week.
03-10-2015 01:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
DeepBreathing Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 2,296
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: Resmed S9 VPAP Adapt
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Resmed H5i
CPAP Pressure: EPAP: 9 - 15 PS: 3 - 10
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Post: #2
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
I've never seen one but that doesn't mean there's no such thing. While I can see the attraction of only filling the tank once a week, a few negatives come to mind....

1. You'd need a big tank, two litres or so, which wouldn't fit the form factor of any current machine

2. A lot of plastics break down under sustained UV exposure - this may shorten the life of the tank (or otherwise you'd need to use a more expensive material

3. It only takes a minute or less to fill the tank anyhow. Would the very slight improvement in efficiency be worth the extra cost and complexity of the UV system?

Sorry - just going into engineer mode and looking for fatal flaws before deciding to support an idea :grin:

DeepBreathing
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Bed

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
03-10-2015 03:38 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
justMongo Offline

Monitors

Posts: 3,854
Joined: Sep 2013

Machine: ResMed VPAP Auto (S9)
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Mirage Quattro
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18 IPAPmax - 11 EPAPmin, PS=5
CPAP Software: Other Software

Other Comments: μολὼν λαβέ

Sex: Male
Location: Калифорния

Post: #3
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
We could have tanks with a float and needle valve (like in a carburetor) that fills from a larger container of distilled H2O by gravity feed.

As for sterilization, uV-c (short wavelength) light is used. I do not think it is transmitted through the plastic in tanks.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
03-10-2015 05:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
PaulaO2 Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 8,068
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #4
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
They use it in saltwater fish tanks. The units, usually in-line, cost anywhere from $75 - 200 and require constant water flow to work properly.

I admit I am lazy. I won't tell you the last time I really cleaned my CPAP stuff. But even I am not so lazy that I won't dump and refill my humidifier tank.

And I admit I like to tinker. And I like my fish tanks. But setting up a UV system just for my CPAP humidifier that uses less than 2 cups of water a night? Now we're back to the lazy part.

PaulaO2
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Breathe deeply and count to zen.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
03-10-2015 12:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Sleeprider Offline
Wiki Editor
Advisory Members

Posts: 3,390
Joined: Dec 2014

Machine: Resmed Aircurve 10 Vauto
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed Airfit P10
Humidifier: Resmed Climateline
CPAP Pressure: Auto Bilevel 18/9, PS 3
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location: Where they make Respironics

Post: #5
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
UV water treatment is frequently used on wells to ensure no pathogens are delivered. I can't imagine using it for a humidifier, but then I don't understand a $10,000 watch either.

______________________________________________
Organize your SleepyHead Data
Post your SleepyHead Data from Imgur
Robysue's Beginner's Guide to Sleepyhead
03-10-2015 12:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
player Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 412
Joined: Feb 2015

Machine: Resmed A10 Autoset For Her
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Resmed A10
Humidifier: Resmed A10 Autosset
CPAP Pressure: 11-16
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: It's a... mad world...

Sex: Male
Location: Canada

Post: #6
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
I have a $60 room humidifier that has a uv sterilizer in it, so clearly it doesn't cost much.

I would like to go to bed, and not have to mess around with water every single day. So if I could have a large tank, it would be great. The unit sits on a small end table by my bed. The added size would not matter. If I travel, I could swap in the regular tank. I have a Resmed A10, and the tank could be as big as needed without altering the machine in any way.
03-10-2015 02:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
PaulaO2 Offline
Wiki Editor
Moderators

Posts: 8,068
Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #7
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
There does exist an addon humidifier for CPAPs that has a bigger tank. The F&P HC150. Because of its larger tank, you could maybe get away with having to fill it up every night and just wait for it to get low enough. Because it is clear, you can see into it and can tell when it starts to get skanky.

PaulaO2
Apnea Board Moderator
www.ApneaBoard.com


Breathe deeply and count to zen.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
03-10-2015 06:25 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
WakeUpTime Offline

Advisory Members

Posts: 156
Joined: Jan 2014

Machine: PR System One BiPAP S60 Auto 760
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: P10 pillows
Humidifier: PR S1 w Heated Tube+Hose
CPAP Pressure: Auto / Inhale 11-12.5 / Exh 9
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments:

Sex: Male
Location:

Post: #8
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
(03-10-2015 06:25 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  There does exist an addon humidifier for CPAPs that has a bigger tank. The F&P HC150. Because of its larger tank, you could maybe get away with having to fill it up every night and just wait for it to get low enough. Because it is clear, you can see into it and can tell when it starts to get skanky.

A few people have added an additional 2nd humidifier tank with the F&P HC150. I sure would love to increase the actual humidity. I can't remember where the F&P connects (last part or before humidifier).

I have a Philips BiPAP System One 760. Isn't there a humidity sensor on the hose that would adjust down the humidity level if it "sees" more coming in?

Sleep Apnea has given me a terrible memory. Please forgive me if I've repeated myself.
03-12-2015 05:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply
Crimson Nape Offline

Monitors

Posts: 1,332
Joined: Oct 2014

Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Other
Mask Make & Model: P-10 / F&P Simplus / DreamWear
Humidifier: H5i w/Climateline
CPAP Pressure: 8 - EPR 3
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: CMS-50F & 50IW

Sex: Male
Location: Georgia

Post: #9
RE: Does This Exist? (humidifier idea...)
(03-10-2015 05:07 AM)justMongo Wrote:  We could have tanks with a float and needle valve (like in a carburetor) that fills from a larger container of distilled H2O by gravity feed.

I have something like that except for the distilled water. It's called a toilet.

Statistics prove that people who have more birthdays live longer.
03-12-2015 05:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Post Reply Quote this message in a reply

Donate to Apnea Board
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Do you use a humidifier? zonk 13 5,783 Yesterday 11:31 PM
Last Post: pk53
  Beginning use with H5i humidifier Lanco 27 889 12-07-2016 02:59 PM
Last Post: Lanco
  Does long term humidifier use affect lungs? Russatrice 11 482 12-06-2016 06:27 PM
Last Post: eseedhouse
  Gunk and grit in humidifier. MrEGuy 11 534 11-07-2016 12:49 AM
Last Post: cands
  [Equipment] Resmed S10 Autoset Humidifier question keithb4158 6 399 11-02-2016 05:13 AM
Last Post: keithb4158
  Dreamstation heated tube/humidifier initial settings. NorthernGuy 9 751 10-28-2016 09:21 AM
Last Post: Perchas
  [CPAP] Humidifier texasbluedevil69 13 513 10-28-2016 06:58 AM
Last Post: texasbluedevil69

Forum Jump:

Who's Online (Complete List)