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#11
For the longest time, before starting "the hose" last September, I think I went years without remembering any dreams. It's only been in the last month or two that I am really having a lot of dreams that I wake up and vividly-remember. I am feeling more refreshed during the day now and have been for the past month or so, so, yes, I do see a correlation in the APAP therapy and my remembering dreams. My AHI has been low for longer than a month, however, for me, I think my body needed to recover from poor sleep all the time leading up to when I started "the hose" - then the time I was acclimating to it all.
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#12
(02-09-2017, 05:04 AM)holden4th Wrote: Sometimes, mine are still bizarre. The constant one used to be parking the car and not being able to find it. The other one also involved the car, running out of speed as I go uphill. I wonder what the dream specialists would make of that. Those dreams have not recurred since using xPAP.

Most of my dreams are mostly bizarre, some more and some less. But the ridiculously obsessive compulsive nightmares that stress me out are the pits. Thank God they are few and far in between. Before I began my CPAP therapy 19 months ago I was not dreaming at all, except when I would nap sitting up. The premise that it takes REM sleep to dream seems dead on. I just wish I could remember all my dreams and not the ones just before waking up.
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(02-05-2017, 08:10 PM)HL649 Wrote: Has anyone noticed if there is a connection between apnea events and dreaming?  It seems to me that when my apnea number is down I dream.  If the number is high I don't remember any dreams in the morning.

I do notice a connection but it is the opposite of yours - when I dream I see, in the morning, that I  had many more apneas than I usually see.  Usually I have none or 1, sometimes 2.  I get about as many hypopneas as obstructive apneas.  However on nights when I have had dreams I'll have more, like 5 or 7, and of every type event that the ResScan can display.
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#14
In the year before I was diagnosed with OSA my dreams were becoming more frustrating,  It often felt that night after night I had hours of annoying and upsetting dreams.

With starting CPAP both my dream frequency and dream content  have changed.

I don't recall my dreams every night anymore, I know I dream, but now they are far less vivid. The ones I do recall clearly now and then are positive  and sometimes downright hilarious. 

Optimal CPAP has reduced my dream recall.

This trend is becoming more obvious for me as time goes by and the longer I use CPAP. I can almost predict what my AHI is going to be based on whether I can recall a dream from the night before. Much like how many times I use the bathroom at night.  Grin
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(02-11-2017, 10:40 AM)Timur Wrote: In the year before I was diagnosed with OSA my dreams were becoming more frustrating,  It often felt that night after night I had hours of annoying and upsetting dreams.

With starting CPAP both my dream frequency and dream content  have changed.

I don't recall my dreams every night anymore, I know I dream, but now they are far less vivid. The ones I do recall clearly now and then are positive  and sometimes downright hilarious. 

Optimal CPAP has reduced my dream recall.

This trend is becoming more obvious for me as time goes by and the longer I use CPAP. I can almost predict what my AHI is going to be based on whether I can recall a dream from the night before. Much like how many times I use the bathroom at night.  Grin

Hi Timur

This dream topic is very interesting to me. Going back during the years that I was suffering with OSA my dreams were far and few, even when waking up numerous times to go to the bathroom. CPAP has enabled me to attain REM, and REM has enabled me to dream again and have the "vivid" type. But as for the content of my dreams, well I can only remember the dream just before I wake up, and if I don't write it down it's totally forgotten.

But what is interesting when I hear the different accounts regarding dreams is how different we can be after improving the AHI numbers with CPAP therapy.

CPAP allows me to have vivid dreams... you have less vivid ones. You can recall them... I mostly can't recall them even though I know I'm having them.

As for the negative dreams, the "annoying and upsetting" type, which I seldom encounter them anymore... I'm wondering if they have a relationship to apneas or are they induced from a psychological perspective.
 
I believe some people have been able to observe their sleepyhead activity to the time of dreams/nightmares and have seen some interesting info. 

Good luck
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#16
As I mentioned in another message:

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid191455

sometimes I am going through short cycles of dreaming and waking up (usually 10 minutes of dreaming, interrupted by about 10-20 seconds of being awake). Many times, those dreams would just continue, after I fall asleep again. It is almost like watching a TV show, with a few commercial breaks. Smile

I always thought this was really strange, as I was under the impression that we only dream in REM stages of sleep. 10-ish minutes of dreaming cannot possibly be REM.

Now that I'm on CPAP, it will be interesting to see if things will change. I hope that my REM time will become longer and longer (only 4% REM during my sleep study), which would mean better sleep quality. And that may change my dreaming patterns too. We'll see.
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(02-11-2017, 10:11 PM)ppca Wrote: As I mentioned in another message:

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid191455

sometimes I am going through short cycles of dreaming and waking up (usually 10 minutes of dreaming, interrupted by about 10-20 seconds of being awake). Many times, those dreams would just continue, after I fall asleep again. It is almost like watching a TV show, with a few commercial breaks. Smile

I always thought this was really strange, as I was under the impression that we only dream in REM stages of sleep. 10-ish minutes of dreaming cannot possibly be REM.

Now that I'm on CPAP, it will be interesting to see if things will change. I hope that my REM time will become longer and longer (only 4% REM during my sleep study), which would mean better sleep quality. And that may change my dreaming patterns too. We'll see.
Your dreaming activity is definitely atypical. Researchers say that REM starts after just over an hour of sleep, and OSA would reset the clock I suppose. Most of the research with REM and sleeping agrees that dreaming is a result of REM. They also conclude that REM occurs in on-off cycles for a total of 20 to 25 percent of our total nights sleep.

My dreaming patterns concur with these studies and with the AHI numbers and the CPAP therapy. You are definitely unique... wow!
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(02-11-2017, 11:15 PM)Louis R. Wrote: Your dreaming activity is definitely atypical. Researchers say that REM starts after just over an hour of sleep, and OSA would reset the clock I suppose. Most of the research with REM and sleeping agrees that dreaming is a result of REM. They also conclude that REM occurs in on-off cycles for a total of 20 to 25 percent of our total nights sleep.

My dreaming patterns concur with these studies and with the AHI numbers and the CPAP therapy. You are definitely unique... wow!

Don't know about unique, lol. Until about a few years ago, I would normally fall asleep, usually very fast, and I guess I went through normal sleep cycles, including REM. Sometimes I had dreams, sometimes not, or I couldn't remember. After having a good night's sleep, I would always feel refreshed in the morning.

About 4-5 years ago, it started to change. Often it took much longer to fall asleep, frequent waking up started as well, along with these short dreams episodes. 3 years ago I was diagnosed with moderate apnea, and I'm guessing that may have been the root cause. Poor sleep quality, due to OSA, not reaching REM cycles, or not staying in them long enough, and voila...fatigue in the morning, and these strange dream episodes.

I am very hopeful that my CPAP therapy will reset things and eventually get me more REM sleep, which I'm obviously lacking now.
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(02-12-2017, 02:49 AM)ppca Wrote:
(02-11-2017, 11:15 PM)Louis R. Wrote: Your dreaming activity is definitely atypical. Researchers say that REM starts after just over an hour of sleep, and OSA would reset the clock I suppose. Most of the research with REM and sleeping agrees that dreaming is a result of REM. They also conclude that REM occurs in on-off cycles for a total of 20 to 25 percent of our total nights sleep.

My dreaming patterns concur with these studies and with the AHI numbers and the CPAP therapy. You are definitely unique... wow!

Don't know about unique, lol. Until about a few years ago, I would normally fall asleep, usually very fast, and I guess I went through normal sleep cycles, including REM. Sometimes I had dreams, sometimes not, or I couldn't remember. After having a good night's sleep, I would always feel refreshed in the morning.

About 4-5 years ago, it started to change. Often it took much longer to fall asleep, frequent waking up started as well, along with these short dreams episodes. 3 years ago I was diagnosed with moderate apnea, and I'm guessing that may have been the root cause. Poor sleep quality, due to OSA, not reaching REM cycles, or not staying in them long enough, and voila...fatigue in the morning, and these strange dream episodes.

I am very hopeful that my CPAP therapy will reset things and eventually get me more REM sleep, which I'm obviously lacking now.
ppca...
With all that pristine Canadian air, a well fitting and comfortable mask, and great CPAP therapy numbers there is no way you will go wrong. Take it from a person who ripped of a full face mask during one of my many sleep studies, aborted the study and drove home at 2:30 in the morning.

You definitely would be unique if ultimately you don't get this therapy to work for you and your health.

Good luck!
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#20
Louis R,

Thank you for these words of encouragement.

I see you are in Miami, so if you wanna switch with me, I could probably use a few months of sandy beaches, instead of pristine Canadian air, and inches and inches of snow. Too-funny Just kidding, it's not too bad here. Smile 

Cheers!
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