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Dry, dry nose
I use my humidifier faithfully. Lately, my nose is beyond dry. I have it set on 80. Should I increase this? Has anyone else had this issue? If so, what did you do? FYI, I live on the west coast and not near the ocean.

I do use AYR when I think about it but would like to have the humidifier setting where it is all I need on a daily basis rather than using AYR daily as well. I may have to use it but if I can find another solution, that would be ideal for me!!

Thanks for any ideas
09-20-2013 04:10 AM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
I think we've all experienced dry nose on CPAP. I do periodically.
My humidifier is turn up quite high; and my Hi4 tank is near dry by morning.
I have occasionally used Vasoline in my nostrils to keep in moisture.
Seems to vary by season, ambient temperature and relative humidity.

The AYR nasal gel is a good idea. I think I'll pick some up.

I tried nasal irrigation with saline solution -- seemed to make things worse.

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09-20-2013 09:57 AM
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me50 Offline

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RE: Dry, dry nose
(09-20-2013 09:57 AM)justMongo Wrote:  My humidifier is turn up quite high; and my Hi4 tank is near dry by morning.

Thank you. How high is your humidifier set?
09-20-2013 10:41 AM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
(09-20-2013 10:41 AM)me50 Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 09:57 AM)justMongo Wrote:  My humidifier is turn up quite high; and my Hi4 tank is near dry by morning.

Thank you. How high is your humidifier set?

My S8 humidifier is not marked the same as your S9. My H4i on my S8 has a dial that goes from zero to 6 with steps in between. I have it set at 2. That consumes most of the water over 7 hours of use.
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09-20-2013 12:25 PM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
(09-20-2013 12:25 PM)justMongo Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 10:41 AM)me50 Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 09:57 AM)justMongo Wrote:  My humidifier is turn up quite high; and my Hi4 tank is near dry by morning.

Thank you. How high is your humidifier set?

My S8 humidifier is not marked the same as your S9. My H4i on my S8 has a dial that goes from zero to 6 with steps in between. I have it set at 2. That consumes most of the water over 7 hours of use.
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Wow....must be a difference between the H4 and the H5 and the ambient relative humidities of where we live...I'm running my H5 at 5.5 (out of 6) and I hardly put a dent in my water over night.
09-20-2013 01:21 PM
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me50 Offline

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RE: Dry, dry nose
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Wow....must be a difference between the H4 and the H5 and the ambient relative humidities of where we live...I'm running my H5 at 5.5 (out of 6) and I hardly put a dent in my water over night.
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I don't know anything about 0 to 6 that you mention. I only know that I can turn mine up as high as 86 F. I checked it out and if you use the climate line tubing, you won't see the 0 to 6. I also found out about the warm up feature that I wasn't told about and that is supposed to help some, however, I don't think that caused my dry nose as it would warm up on its own after using it. I am going to use the warm up feature tonight and see what happens.

Thanks for the info.

I guess I need to look around the forum to see about the 0 to 6 you speak of.
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09-20-2013 02:26 PM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
(09-20-2013 02:26 PM)me50 Wrote:  I guess I need to look around the forum to see about the 0 to 6 you speak of.

My DME indicated that if you twist the climateline hose off so that the contacts aren't connected, you can access the humidity rather than temperature.

Not sure if it remains in effect with the climateline hose connected, but I've noticed a difference (real or placebo, I don't know). Still, I'm typically running between 80 and 80F (26-30C) and between 5 and 6 on the humidity and I still don't put much of a dent in the water unless I am running a ffm.
09-20-2013 04:24 PM
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me50 Offline

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RE: Dry, dry nose
Still, I'm typically running between 80 and 80F (26-30C) and between 5 and 6 on the humidity and I still don't put much of a dent in the water unless I am running a ffm.
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Where I live, we have very low humidity almost year around. My left ear was hurting so I took a nap while I waited for my appointment with my ENT. I slept for an hour and my AHI was 7.5 during that hour.

Because of my allergies, I use a ffm.

He said that my nose was swollen inside (most likely my allergies) and gave me a different nasal spray to use for a week. I also called the RT and she said that a lot of people are having trouble right now and to turn mine up to 86 and to use the warm up feature 20 minutes before I go to sleep.

So, I am going to try all of this and see what happens and will let you know.
09-20-2013 06:15 PM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
With ClimateLine attached and Climate Control set to "Auto" you can only adjust the temperature of the interior of the ClimateLine hose and the machine will automatically adjust the humidity level to the highest level ResMed sees as possible while reliably guaranteeing you won't get rain-out. If you detach the ClimateLine then set humidity level and then reconnect the ClimateLine it will just go back to Auto Climate Control function and the humidity level you set will be ignored. If you want to be able to set the humidity level on your own then you have to get into clinical settings menu and set Climate Control to "Manual" or "Patient" (if set to patient, then set to "Manual" out in main settings). When you do this you will then be able to set the hose temp and humidity level independently (water drop and thermometer both appear on home screen). When set to manual, there is no guarantee you won't get rain-out...and you will likely get rain-out if you set the humidity level high and hose temp low.

I leave my hose temp at max - 86F. I leave my humidity set at either 5.5 or 6, depending on how humid the air already is (with the goal of getting maximum humidity without running out of water before I wake up). I can usually leave it set at 6 in the summer, but have to bump it back to 5.5 in winter just to conserve the water. I do much better at 6 - I wish ResMed would have made the water tub larger.

Even with the humidity set that high, I have never gotten rain-out with my ClimateLine set at 86F.

I always use the warm up so I don't have to suffer the dry air for the 15 or 20 minutes it takes the water to warm up. Warm up might help you get to sleep, but likely won't help much as far as what's going on long-term through the night. If you are drying out and want to continue using Auto Climate Control, then just start increasing the hose temp gradually - this will allow the machine to automatically increase the humidity level. If you get to 86F and it is still too dry, then you will probably have to set to manual and increase humidity level on your own (ResMed's Auto Climate Control is a little conservative in order to make absolutely sure you don't get rain-out). If you get to 6 and are still dry and/or are running out of water, then welcome to the club...using xylimelts helps; or, you can get the F&P HC150 stand alone humidifier (larger tank and higher settings) and a Hybernite hose as others have done.

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09-20-2013 07:44 PM
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RE: Dry, dry nose
Ok....I was missing a step....thanks jog jones Smile I knew it could be done, just wasn't fully informed Smile

I guess it really is conservative then...for some reason mine absolutely sips water.
09-20-2013 08:06 PM
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