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mkhenry Offline

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Post: #1
Calling all bearded guys
I was concerned about my therapy because since I retired I have grown a full breard. Looking at the graph summary data on leaks and not quite understanding what is acceptable made me do some Googling and saw the thing about striving for <5 on AHI. Plus I just changed from the ResMed Quattro to a ResMed Quattro Air full face mask and was curious if things were good with this mask.I was concerned about the leak data shown in the summary graphs and that is what led me to researching what was acceptable.

Using Resmed Quattro Air full face mask
Over the past 14 days,
Usage
Median daily usage: 7.49
Average daily usage: 7.27.

Leaks
Median: 13.2,
95th percentile: 25.8,
Maximum: 52.2

AHI average for the 14 day period is .2.

Previous 14 day period with ResMed Quattro full face mask

Usage
Median daily usage: 7.45
Average daily Usage: 8.15

Leaks
Median: 2.4
95th Percentile: 10.8

Maximum: 21.6

AHI
for this 2 week period: .1

Any input on how my therapy numbers look and suggestions for masks that work well with a full beard would be appreciated. FWIW, I have tried the nasal pillows but do not like the chin strap I have to wear when using them.

Thanks in advance.
11-20-2013 05:55 PM
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Post: #2
RE: Calling all bearded guys
Nasal pillows work best with full beards! I have had a full beard 7 months of the year (and a VanDyke for the other 5) for several decades and the pillows have always worked for me!


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11-20-2013 06:04 PM
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DocWils Offline

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Post: #3
RE: Calling all bearded guys
Same here - pillows and a Sammi Chlaus beard.
11-20-2013 06:11 PM
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Post: #4
RE: Calling all bearded guys
I have a full beard and have good success with the Respironics Wisp mask. Sleep-well

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11-20-2013 06:51 PM
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PsychoMike Offline

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Post: #5
RE: Calling all bearded guys
I've got a nice moustache going...can be an issue for pillows or a nasal mask depending on how thick.

Regarding your numbers, an AHI < 5 is generally considered okay and you seem to be doing far better than that regardless of the mask choice.

For ResMed machines, an unintentional leak rate of 24 l/min or less is within what the machine can accommodate. Your average leak rate (Quattro Air) is less than 24, so that's good....and 95% of the time, you're less than 25.8....I'd say you're likely still getting pretty decent therapy with the Quattro Air.

Comparing the two it looks like the regular Quattro was sealing a bit better, but if you're just changing there could still be some growing pains there.
11-20-2013 07:02 PM
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mkhenry Offline

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Post: #6
RE: Calling all bearded guys
Thanks for the replies. PsychoMike, that is what I was hoping to hear. The full face masks are the most comfortable for me and if my leaks are aceptable, I will go back to my Quattro mask, use it for a few days, and check the numbers again.
11-20-2013 07:36 PM
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Post: #7
RE: Calling all bearded guys
i have hang down goatee and fur

fitlife i just tighten the lower and leak is minimal

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11-20-2013 08:17 PM
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Post: #8
RE: Calling all bearded guys
I have a Texan goatee aka a ZZ Top beard and use nasal pillows.

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11-21-2013 03:02 AM
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Post: #9
RE: Calling all bearded guys
I have a mustache and goatee. Since the majority of time I can't breathe through my nose, nasal masks and pillows are not an option. I use a full face mask. I currently use the Mirage Quattro with the lower straps pretty tight. On my first month of therapy I used the Quattro Air but I was unable to control the leaks. This could have been since I was just starting out. I still have some issues with leaks but I adjust a little here and a little there and things are good for a couple of weeks.
11-21-2013 04:49 PM
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mikeh99 Offline

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Post: #10
RE: Calling all bearded guys
I tried nasal masks (both med & large) and full face (again both med & large) but they leaked like a sieve. Switched to nasal pillows and, for me, they work great. Good luck in your quest.

Mike
11-21-2013 08:09 PM
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