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[Equipment] Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
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Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
I've been recently diagnosed with sleep apnea. Originally I received an AirSense machine that didn't fix the problem. For the last week, I've been using an AirCurve 10 ASV that is working well.

In June, I will be camping for a week with the Boy Scouts in a fixed location. I'll have a big tent and can take a battery. What do I need to be able to run my machine for 7 days?

TIA for all the help!
05-26-2016 12:26 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
See Mongo's post #69 for a good start:

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid162941

You'll need a larger battery or a charger (maybe a solar charger).

7 nights might be too much for a reasonable setup.

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(This post was last modified: 05-26-2016 01:39 AM by sdb7802.)
05-26-2016 01:19 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
Second the solar panels to charge the battery. like It's a must have for more than one night.

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05-26-2016 01:37 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
Hi Grooves McFly,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Hang in there for more answers to your battery question and much success to you with your CPAP therapy.
I hope your camping trip gose well.

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05-26-2016 04:30 PM
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justMongo Offline

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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
McFly: Do you have to lug in the battery? SLA's are heavy.
So, a larger battery may not be practical. A 100 Watt solar panel with a charger is a possible option to use with an SLA in the 35 A-Hr range.

Run with humidity "off" to conserve power.

Or, you could hook up a Car alternator to a stationary bike and have the scouts charge the battery... SHa_biggrin5

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
05-26-2016 04:43 PM
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Asjb Offline

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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
Hello Mc Fly,

I have the same machine as you. We have quite a few power-cuts here so my technician ordered me a Resmed back-up battery.

His advice to conserve power was (as JustMongo suggested) to stop using the humidifier (you need to replace it of course with the block-off end-piece that came with the machine).

He also said that if you are using Auto-EPAP to replace it with a fixed EPAP pressure and to minimise, as appropriate for you, the range of pressure support. This should make the machine 'less active' and apparently conserve power.

I can't find any publications that support my technician's advice but he's very expert so I usually take note of what he says.

Hope you have a great trip!

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No suggestions I may make should be taken as professional advice.
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My current pressures: Auto-ASV. EPAP 10-12. PS 3-10
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2016 04:43 AM by Asjb.)
05-27-2016 04:40 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
(05-26-2016 04:43 PM)justMongo Wrote:  McFly: Do you have to lug in the battery? SLA's are heavy.

I think I will be able to drop off all my camping equipment directly at the camping site, so I won't need to lug it by hand for any long distance. I'm checking to see if there is 110v electricity at the central facility. If so, I may take a dolly so I can haul the battery over for a re-charge every few days.

(05-26-2016 04:43 PM)justMongo Wrote:  Or, you could hook up a Car alternator to a stationary bike and have the scouts charge the battery... SHa_biggrin5

Ha, I love this idea!

(05-27-2016 04:40 AM)Asjb Wrote:  I have the same machine as you. We have quite a few power-cuts here so my technician ordered me a Resmed back-up battery.

The Resmed back-up battery looks like an interesting option since it's so much smaller. Even though it's expensive, it might be worth it for future camping trips where I won't be able to lug a full-size battery.

Question: if you can recharge it every day, will the battery last the night running the humidifier?
05-27-2016 10:26 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
I was looking on a website that sells sleep machine supplies (I understand I'm not supposed to link directly). They sell this DC converter: "ResMed 10-Series DC adapter for AirSense 10 CPAP machines and AirCurve 10 VPAP Machines" Item Id: 37297.

Question 1: If I buy this, do I need a 24v battery, or does it do the conversion so you can use a 12v battery?

Question 2: Is an ASV in the same category as a VPAP?
05-27-2016 10:29 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
(05-27-2016 10:26 AM)Grooves McFly Wrote:  
(05-27-2016 04:40 AM)Asjb Wrote:  I have the same machine as you. We have quite a few power-cuts here so my technician ordered me a Resmed back-up battery.

The Resmed back-up battery looks like an interesting option since it's so much smaller. Even though it's expensive, it might be worth it for future camping trips where I won't be able to lug a full-size battery.

Question: if you can recharge it every day, will the battery last the night running the humidifier?

Hello again. Sorry, don't know. Absolutely typical - haven't had any power cuts since I was given the Resmed battery (but the way workers' protests are going this week in France, feel sure it won't be long before the electricity goes off...)

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My current pressures: Auto-ASV. EPAP 10-13. PS 3-10
05-28-2016 10:52 AM
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RE: Camping for 7 days - AirCurve 10 ASV - battery power?
(05-27-2016 10:29 AM)Grooves McFly Wrote:  I was looking on a website that sells sleep machine supplies (I understand I'm not supposed to link directly). They sell this DC converter: "ResMed 10-Series DC adapter for AirSense 10 CPAP machines and AirCurve 10 VPAP Machines" Item Id: 37297.

Question 1: If I buy this, do I need a 24v battery, or does it do the conversion so you can use a 12v battery?

Question 2: Is an ASV in the same category as a VPAP?

You absolutely need that 12V to 24V converter. Not only does it up convert from 12 to 24 Volts, it has the correct 3 wire connector for the 10 series machine. (Barrel, Tip, and center pin.) ResMed makes it such that only a ResMed supply can run their machines.

INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
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