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[Equipment] During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
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During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
I've been on CPAP therapy for a couple weeks now, and I use the F&P Icon Premo machine. Its hose is certainly long enough to extend all the way to the other side of my bed, even though I tend to sleep on the half of the bed closest to it and don't require it to go that far.

The problem is that, despite theoretically adequate hose length, the hose inevitably gets stuck underneath me while I sleep or wrapped around my neck/body and this effectively limits the hose length. This means that there is not enough slack in the hose when I happen to roll over a bit too far or something. If that happens, the hose pulls the machine down from the desk and face down onto my bed (which is adjacent to the desk).

If there's simply not enough slack left on the hose due to it being wrapped around me or stuck under my weight, simple Newtonian physics demands that something's got to break off or the machine is going to topple over. So even if I bolted the damn thing down, all that means is that the hose would break whenever there's not enough slack left.

Thankfully, the machine's water chamber area seems pretty sealed so there's never much water inside the basin to clean up after it falls over, nor is there any leakage onto the bed or floor. The LCD screen does display an error message when this happens (which, upon looking up the specific error code, signifies "motor failure"), but upon unplugging+replugging the machine, the error goes away and the machine seems to work fine.

This has happened twice in just the last few days, and I'm more concerned with damaging the machine and the time it takes to clean the water from inside the machine than I am with the interrupted sleep it causes on nights when this occurs.

Is this a frequent problem for other CPAP users too, or am I doing something wrong? Is there something I can do to avoid this? Is my machine likely to be damaged from this happening?

Thanks.
06-03-2014 11:13 PM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
There's a few gadgets you can get that will hold the hose up out of the way but some folks make their own.

What you can do is up from the machine, take some cloth and tape it to the hose or tie a string to it around one of the coils or something so it stays in place and doesn't move. Then affix that string or cloth to either the wall or the bedpost. When you tug on the hose during the night, the tug only reaches that point and goes no further.

Also by attaching the hose upward, above your head, chances are it isn't going to get tangled up around you to begin with.

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06-03-2014 11:23 PM
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Aelius Offline

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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
(06-03-2014 11:23 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  There's a few gadgets you can get that will hold the hose up out of the way but some folks make their own.

What you can do is up from the machine, take some cloth and tape it to the hose or tie a string to it around one of the coils or something so it stays in place and doesn't move. Then affix that string or cloth to either the wall or the bedpost. When you tug on the hose during the night, the tug only reaches that point and goes no further.

Also by attaching the hose upward, above your head, chances are it isn't going to get tangled up around you to begin with.

Sounds good, I'll try what you suggest with some cloth or string and see if that helps. What are some of the gadgets I can buy specifically for this?

Thanks for the help.
06-03-2014 11:32 PM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
Hi Aelius,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
You might try putting "CPAP hose lifts" into a search engine or you could check out the suppliers list at the top of each page on this board and see what they have. I have one and it works well for me.
Hang in there for more suggestions and best of luck to you with your CPAP therapy.

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06-03-2014 11:59 PM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
A hose lift would definitely help ,

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06-04-2014 04:38 AM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
I have a similar problem so I loop mine around the bedhead post and headboard so that the machine if it does get pulled is pulled to a "safe" location where it cannot fall. Everything else on the bedside table just gets knocked off. Too-funny
06-04-2014 05:29 AM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
My solution to your problem is to put the machine under your bed; running a ten-foot hose up between the headboard and mattress. Thus, there is no chance of the machine falling. Whistle


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06-04-2014 07:21 AM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
Do whatever you have to do to secure that machine down or strain relief that hose ASAP. Way expensive if you ruin the machine, you've been lucky so far. Good advice so far.
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06-04-2014 07:37 AM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
(06-03-2014 11:13 PM)Aelius Wrote:  I've been on CPAP therapy for a couple weeks now, and I use the F&P Icon Premo machine. Its hose is certainly long enough to extend all the way to the other side of my bed, even though I tend to sleep on the half of the bed closest to it and don't require it to go that far.

The problem is that, despite theoretically adequate hose length, the hose inevitably gets stuck underneath me while I sleep or wrapped around my neck/body and this effectively limits the hose length. This means that there is not enough slack in the hose when I happen to roll over a bit too far or something. If that happens, the hose pulls the machine down from the desk and face down onto my bed (which is adjacent to the desk).

If there's simply not enough slack left on the hose due to it being wrapped around me or stuck under my weight, simple Newtonian physics demands that something's got to break off or the machine is going to topple over. So even if I bolted the damn thing down, all that means is that the hose would break whenever there's not enough slack left.

Thankfully, the machine's water chamber area seems pretty sealed so there's never much water inside the basin to clean up after it falls over, nor is there any leakage onto the bed or floor. The LCD screen does display an error message when this happens (which, upon looking up the specific error code, signifies "motor failure"), but upon unplugging+replugging the machine, the error goes away and the machine seems to work fine.

This has happened twice in just the last few days, and I'm more concerned with damaging the machine and the time it takes to clean the water from inside the machine than I am with the interrupted sleep it causes on nights when this occurs.

Is this a frequent problem for other CPAP users too, or am I doing something wrong? Is there something I can do to avoid this? Is my machine likely to be damaged from this happening?

Thanks.

Hi

Have you ever considered running the hose overhead perhaps from the top bedpost or a plant hanger or a hose buddy. I find running hose overhead eliminates a lot of problems

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06-04-2014 09:14 AM
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RE: During sleep, the hose often gets tangled under/around me and the machine falls over
I have a pretty long hose and I sleep close to my machine on a nightstand next to me. I wrap my hose up around the bedpost. There is still some slack with the hose and I find myself laying on it or it is draped across me sometimes. With it being up around the bedpost, it protects it from tugging on my machine and pulling it off.

While away in a hotel, the beds don't always have bedposts. If I can wedge it gently behind the headboard to secure it without harming the hose I have done that. Or if there is a lamp extending on the wall next to the bed I have draped the hose over that. Others in this thread have had good suggestions. You could also get 3M removable command hooks to stick to your wall and drape the hose on the hook. Get a hook that is big enough and deep enough that the hose will fit down into the dip so it doesn't fall off the hook. I don't have good luck with those hooks holding in my closets ... probably because I put things too heavy on them. I don't believe a hose would be too heavy though.
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