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[Equipment] Quebec Insurance for CPAP machine and supplies
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RE: Quebec Insurance for CPAP machine and supplies
Now I'm curious to learn more about Canada's health care system. I thought it was single payer (i.e., provided by the government). Off to ask my best friend, Mr. Google.
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(01-28-2018, 03:57 PM)paulag1955 Wrote: Now I'm curious to learn more about Canada's health care system. I thought it was single payer (i.e., provided by the government). Off to ask my best friend, Mr. Google.


Technically, everything "in hospital" is paid by govt. Wait times are long unless you are actually dying.

Everything "outside" of hospital is not paid. Or, if you don't feel like waiting a year for something, you can pay and have it tomorrow in a private clinic.... like exams, xrays, scans, sleep study, etc.

All medical devices are not covered.

So, you could technically have all doc consult and sleep study done for free, wait time is 2 years in my region.... so I paid and had it quick.
CPAP is not covered at all, all out of your pocket.
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A person could be dead in two years.
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(01-28-2018, 06:59 PM)paulag1955 Wrote: A person could be dead in two years.
Yeah, our health system is sick. Wait times are too long, accessibility is really bad, and cost is high.
But you have to choose....
Quality health system for the rich, and no health for the poor. (usa)
or, good but slow system for all.(quebec)
Health for all leads to a better life for everyone, and less crime and inequalities... but it's slow. You can't have it all.
For example, because you can't see your family doctor anyway (that's if you actually have a family dr), you have to go to the ER for everything.
But then, unless you are dying, there is 8-12 hours wait to see a dr.
So eventually you just leave and go back home, and that's a spot for someone else.
Went 4 times to the ER with my sick daughter, and 3 times we left because wait time was like 12 hours and she was sick but not actually dying so I mean, we just left.
My family dr is in a town 2 hours away. I can't get one in my town, because they say I already have a family dr. They can'y switch me to another dr. I would have to leave my dr, and then be on a list to get one in my town, and I could be on that list for years. How dumb, seriously, they can't swap me. I can't be on the swap list if I have a dr in another town. That's how retarded the system is.
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Don't kid yourself. The poor in the USA have health care. It's the middle class that's getting squeezed out.
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Not attempting to debate, but inform:

I have zero income because I'm disabled, I've been circling the Social Security Disability Approval to be paid airfield for 3 and a half years.

My PA welfare provided health insurance (United Healthcare with supplemental Medicare) paid for: 2 sleep studies, short term rental of the failed Bilevel machine, a $20K approx. bariatric sleeve surgery because of health risks called apnea and a BMI of 41, provided the current rent to own ASV as well, the recent Spinal Cord Stimulant trial, and all other doc office visits from 2015 on, and pays for almost all my med costs, all the above with a 0 to $3 co-pay per item. Just saying, the poor are covered in the US with medical insurance.

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Health care in Canada is actually a provincial responsibility, although the federal government contributes a substantial portion of the cost, so it can (and does) vary from place to place. Alas, the urban versus rural divide also creates a great variation. I live in Toronto, in Ontario, Canada's largest city. I use a family clinic at a hospital a ten minute walk away, and haven't had to visit the emergency room since a heart attack nearly fifteen years ago - so my experience with them is limited. I have a couple of chronic conditions, so I have regular clinic appointments, either every three months, six months, or yearly. As Kryogen said, everything within a hospital is covered, but dental work, prescription drugs, and durable medical equipment is not covered, except by group insurance plans (which, thankfully, I have). Ontario (but only Ontario, AFAIK) does have an Assistive Devices Program which covers a range of devices from communication aids (for children only, I think) to wheel chairs, and CPAP machines (but not ASV). I have never had to wait an inordinate amount of time for appointments, except for my ophthalmologist, whom I see yearly, but have to schedule about three months in advance.
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Kyrogen's experience is not everyone's experience. It may be his province, or his location, I don't know.

Living in a major city, I have the same PCP for over 20 years. Good doctor. Can get an appt same day if necessary. As far as referring me to specialists, has good contacts throughout the city. If I don't like something, a doctor or a wait time, will get me another.

We are short of doctors because many train here, then goes to the US to make money. Mostly though the shortage turns up in smaller towns.

Ontario gov't now pays for Rx for under 24 years old, and over 65. xPAP 75%. Vaccines, flu shots 100%. Supplemental insurance covers everything else like dental, eyeglasses. Most get it through work or pension, others can purchase individually.

My sleep study took five months but was due to a doctor left the practice and I had to be rescheduled into the other doctors schedule which resulted in a two to three months delay. In hindsight, I should have requested a different referral because the time was too long and I don't respect the one I was assigned to.

Coverage varies widely from province to province and changes from time to time depending on the government in charge at the time. In my opinion, politics should not be governing health care.
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