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[Equipment] So clean
#1
Hey Friends,  They are really pushing the "So clean" units. Is this something I need? 

Thanks
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#2
The short answer is "No". If you _needed_ it, I'm pretty sure the CPAP manufacturers would recommend it or sell it themselves.

The longer answer is that there have been several threads discussing the SoClean device. It uses ozone to sterilise the areas it can reach, and it doesn't clean anything, the way a brush and detergent would. People who have bought the device say they like it, people who haven't bought it say it's useless. I have not seen any reports of CPAP users getting more infections from their usage without SoClean than people who don't use CPAP machines, so count me in the latter group.
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#3
Lots of threads here on this.  IMO they are preying on people's unfounded fears.  At best it does nothing useful.  At worst, it damages some components of your machine.
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#4
I agree that it's at best worthless. Just so you know mine is not just a layman's opinion, I am a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately, a good friend of mine bought one without consulting me. I haven't had the heart to tell him what I've said here but I have cautioned him that he still needs to clean his reservoir, hose, mask, and cushions at intervals, since ozone does not clean, and that it will damage his headgear and possibly cushions. If this were a medical device requiring FDA approval it never would have made it to the market.

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(03-11-2017, 04:11 PM)Melman Wrote: I agree that it's at best worthless. Just so you know mine is not just a layman's opinion, I am a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately, a good friend of mine bought one without consulting me. I haven't had the heart to tell him what I've said here but I have cautioned him that he still needs to clean his reservoir, hose, mask, and cushions at intervals, since ozone does not clean, and that it will damage his headgear and possibly cushions. If this were a medical device requiring FDA approval it never would have made it to the market.

Thanks for this detailed explanation Melman.  Good to know.
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#6
Hi pogosix,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
You still need to wash your hose, mask and humidifier chamber, so you might as well save quite a bit of money and just get some dish soap, I use Ivory Liquid, some use baby shampoo, it's whatever you prefer. The only thing I don’t use is the anti-bacterial soap. Some say that those soaps break down the masks, but from what I read, others have tried them and haven’t had any trouble with it.
Hang in there for more ideas.
Good luck to you with your CPAP therapy.
trish6hundred
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#7
Thanks everyone, your responses helped me decide against buying a Soclean. I had doubts about it but now I am certain. Sleep-well
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#8
Good choice, in my oppinion.
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#9
I bought one and I am glad I did. 

Previously I would unsnap and clean my gel comfort cushion and silicone cover everyday (easy to do) but when it came to removing and cleaning my humidifier, that would be, maybe, every other month and my hose maybe once a year.  And trying to get in every nick and corner of that humidifier reservoir was impossible unless you wanted to pull out the Q-Tips. 

Of course I can't measure bacteria, but I have not had a sniffle since I bought it and that gives me a higher peace-of-mind.
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#10
Ah, there are so many negative threads on this and so many more experienced and knowledgeable folks so I have withheld from posting so far.
From my personal experience after a year of using the SoClean device:

BEFORE yes weekly cleanings took a lot of time on the rinse bucket, wait 4 hrs, rinse, dry... BUT bigger issue was the Dreamstation humidifier - I would think many can relate to the bad design of sharp, uncleanable angles of the reservoir. And the worse part was that despite using distilled water before the end of each week there would be nasty pink / green stuff, and hard to clean even with a brush.

Since starting the soclean system there has been zero algea or whatever that was. Reservoir stays shiny. 1 year into it. No breathing issues for me. Yes the plastics and rubber on my P10 mask seem to be taking a small hit but ok consumables at the end.

Just sharing my experience for what its worth, not looking for an argument.
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