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theosgirl45 Offline

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Machine: Fisher and Paykel Icon Premo
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher and Paykel Icon Premo
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: 18
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Female
Location: Kentucky(USA)

Post: #1
Question Used machines
I was just wondering if any one here had any luck buying a used machine. I was recently diagnosed with sleep apnea and my insurance has decided that they aren't going to pay for my machine. Someone suggested I buy a used machine and I wasn't sure if that was a good idea or not.
02-05-2013 05:05 PM
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zonk Offline

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Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #2
RE: Used machines
welcome to the board
folk here bought gently used (low hours) and new zero hours machines from secondwind CPAP (Supplier #2)
highly recommended and prices are very attractive too
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-CPAP-Supplier-List

Why should I buy a used machine?
Every machine we sell is pressure tested prior to resale to insure that your device is pressure-accurate. By the time we are finished cleaning the used cpap or used bipap machines we offer, they are as clean as if they just left the manufacturer. The inside of the machines are cleaned with a combination of Ozone, and UV-C light; The same sterilizing techniques used for surgical equipment, and in dentist offices around the country. Externally, we clean the devices with a biodegradable solution that is used in hospitals across the country to provide a completely sanitized surface. We pride ourselves on providing a clean, quality used cpap/bipap machine

make sure to get data capable machine to monitor and track your therapy
check the site for low hours S9 AutoSet $549, humidifier, water tank and both hoses (climateline and slimline are included)

the S9 manual, setup information and software downloads are available from Apnea Board
(This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 05:32 PM by zonk.)
02-05-2013 05:31 PM
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archangle Offline
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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Swift FX
Humidifier: ResMed S9 H5i
CPAP Pressure: 16-20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead EncoreBasic

Other Comments: Happy PAPper

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: USA

Post: #3
RE: Used machines
(02-05-2013 05:05 PM)theosgirl45 Wrote:  I was just wondering if any one here had any luck buying a used machine. I was recently diagnosed with sleep apnea and my insurance has decided that they aren't going to pay for my machine. Someone suggested I buy a used machine and I wasn't sure if that was a good idea or not.

I've bought 4 machines through Craigslist. I had to watch ads for 3 months each before I found good deals on 3 of them.

There are a lot of ridiculous prices people asked for. My starting point was 1/2 of the online retail price or lower. For instance, someone is selling a PRS1 Auto machine available online for $600. The one they bought from a local DME may have been billed at $3000, but insurance only paid $1200. The seller thinks he should get $800. For used medical equipment, with no warranty.

Also a lot of the Craigslist sellers don't know what equipment they have. I had to ask for a picture or tell them to read what it says next to the power knob to figure out whether it's an S9 Escape or an S9 AutoSet.

I've bought PRS1 Autos for $300 and $200, and an S9 AutoSet for $300. I'm in a major metro area, and had to drive 50+ miles out of town for two of them.

The other usual warnings about CL buys applies.

There is a lady who sells "new" CPAP machines all around the country on CL. She posts ads that look like she's local, but she actually ships them from South Texas. (Corpus Christi, I think.) While this seems shady to me, apparently she does deliver what she says. Of course, you can't be sure you're really dealing with her or a copycat. I did all my buying face to face.

Supplier #2 on the supplier list has a good reputation for used equipment. They'll probably require a prescription.

You might also find a friend or relative with a good CPAP gathering dust in their closet. Many people get them and quit using them.

Either get a new mask, hose and water tank or figure out how to sterilize used ones.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
Useful links.
Click here for information on the main alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check it yourself.
02-05-2013 05:46 PM
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aehjr Offline

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Posts: 92
Joined: Dec 2012

Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage FX
Humidifier: ResMed S9 H5i
CPAP Pressure: 6 - 12
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Colorado

Post: #4
RE: Used machines
I recently bought a machine from supplier 2 and was happy with the condition and the price. I was a little surprised to learn that my "lightly used" machine had 1800 hours on it when it arrived but so far everything works fine. My Respironics machine has 12,000+ hours on it and it was/ is going strong when I replaced it with the ResMed machine.
I'm keeping the Respironics to use for camping since I have a CPAP battery that I can use to power it when there isn't electricity at night.
02-05-2013 06:19 PM
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Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #5
RE: Used machines
Wherever you get it, make sure it is data capable.

Archangel wrote a wonderful article on which ones do what.

http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ne_Choices

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02-05-2013 06:21 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: Resmed AirSense Autoset For Her S10
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Wisp and DreamWear
Humidifier: AirSense
CPAP Pressure: 6-18
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Sex: Female
Location: Gold Coast Australia

Post: #6
RE: Used machines
I also bought a machine from Supplier #2 and the pre sale and after service was excellent. Like aehjr mine had about 1800 hours on it, which was a shock too but on the whole, am extremely satisified with everything from the company to the machine. I might mention also, that it took a surprisingly short time to arrive. Ordered and sent in one day (from the US) - arrived in Australia in about 4 days. Highly Recommend
(This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 06:29 PM by weeble.)
02-05-2013 06:28 PM
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aehjr Offline

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Posts: 92
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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Mirage FX
Humidifier: ResMed S9 H5i
CPAP Pressure: 6 - 12
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Colorado

Post: #7
RE: Used machines
I should also have mentioned the outstanding customer service and fast delivery from supplier 2. Definitely recommend them!
02-05-2013 06:32 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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Joined: May 2012

Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

Sex: Female
Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #8
RE: Used machines
Hi theosgirl45,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
What everyone has said so far.
Best of luck to you on finding your new machine and with your CPAP therapy.

trish6hundred
02-05-2013 06:38 PM
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DocWils Offline

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Joined: Jul 2012

Machine: Philips Remstar series 60
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed P10
Humidifier: same as machine
CPAP Pressure: 5-15
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Switzerland

Post: #9
RE: Used machines
Hospitals that have sleep labs regularly swap out their machines, and that is one way to get a used one cheaply - usually they are kept at hospital level cleanliness, so you won't have to worry about that. Just go around to the labs and ask, and if they say there is a list, get on it.
02-05-2013 07:12 PM
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zonk Offline

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Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #10
RE: Used machines
(02-05-2013 06:19 PM)aehjr Wrote:  I was a little surprised to learn that my "lightly used" machine had 1800 hours on it when it arrived but so far everything works fine.
I'm surprised too
anything over 500 hours is not gently used machine
I would ask them first to confirm the hours and serial/software numbers
02-05-2013 07:25 PM
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