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F&P Simplus Issue
Thought I would post here while waiting for my medical supply store to open.

New CPAP user and I chose the F&P Simplus FFM. After 2-4 hours of use on a nightly basis, the mask (or lining) seem to loosen and makes a loud flapping (read farting) noise. Its loud enough that I wake up, move the mask around, pull it from my face to refit, but to no avail. Because I cant stop the noise, I take the mask off so I can at least sleep.

Has anyone experienced this? Am I doing something wrong?
05-25-2016 10:52 AM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
(05-25-2016 10:52 AM)Big Poppa Puff Wrote:  ... I chose the F&P Simplus FFM. After 2-4 hours of use on a nightly basis, the mask (or lining) seem to loosen and makes a loud flapping (read farting) noise. Its loud enough that I wake up, move the mask around, pull it from my face to refit, but to no avail. Because I cant stop the noise, I take the mask off so I can at least sleep.

Has anyone experienced this? Am I doing something wrong?

I had the same issue with the Simplus but I find it such a comfortable mask that I persevered. The two things that I found helped were

1. to make sure I had a really clean and dry face before masking up. I wash my face with a hypo-allergenic wash gel, but whatever will suit you

2. At my higher pressures, I found a mask liner invaluable. The leaks are probably the same intensity but they don't make that awful noise any more! and I don't wake up. Lots of posts about mask liners on the Board.

And welcome to the Board! - hope your CPAP experience is the best possible.

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All my opinions are only as a xPAP user trying to help another xPAP user.
No suggestions I may make should be taken as medical advice.
If you have medical concerns I suggest you consult a doctor

My current pressures: Auto-ASV. EPAP 10-13. PS 3-10
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2016 11:09 AM by Asjb.)
05-25-2016 11:04 AM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
Welcome to the Apnea Board!

Yep! Big Grin I don't know if my problem is yours, but I have oily skin. Wash your face with soap before you go to bed and if this happens in the night, get up and wash again. Or keep baby wipes or something similar next to your bed. The oils on the skin make the silicone seal slip and it can't hold pressure.

Another thing that can cause this is increases in pressure from an APAP machine and the straps not being tight enough for the higher pressure. But it looks like you are on a constant 15cm.

Also, the shape of your face changes over the night as you are lying down and muscles relax. I don't know what to do about that.
05-25-2016 11:05 AM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
You can also keep wipes handy by the bedside. Use them to clean the part of the mask that makes contact with your skin. You can also use them to clean your face. Just make sure you don't use the type that contain lotions.

As your body adapts you will find that this becomes less of an issue.

Also, you might try tightening the straps just a bit.

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05-25-2016 11:44 AM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
Thanks for this! I hadn't thought of that. I'll give it a shot for the next couple of nights.

Also, is this something that tends to happen with all masks or just this particular one?
05-25-2016 01:50 PM
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Post: #6
RE: F&P Simplus Issue
There's nothing special with this mask, unless for some reason it's not fitting you well. It's very common for people to have to try out different masks until they find one that fits.

The Simplus comes in different sizes. If your chin slides inside the mask, try going down a size. The cushions (the part that makes contact with your face) is replaceable and your insurance likely covers a replacement monthly. I've found that after amonth or so they lose some of their elasticity and I have to tighten the straps a bit to compensate. I usually make them last a lot longer than a month.

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05-25-2016 02:13 PM
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Post: #7
RE: F&P Simplus Issue
I love the Simplus, but I do find that I have to re-adjust the straps during the night, and usually much tighter than the Simplus rep recommended when he demonstrated it. I end up with red crease marks on my cheeks, but no pain on the nose bridge like i experienced with my former mask,the mirage quattro.
05-25-2016 02:59 PM
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Post: #8
RE: F&P Simplus Issue
Hi Big Poppa Puff,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
Just curious,Did they fit you with the wrong sized cushion? You might check into that.
I wish you good luck in finding a mask that will work for you, this is the hardest part of this whole thing, so if, (after you have tried it for a bit,) you just can't get used to this mask, don't be shy about asking to try different ones 'till you find one that works well for you.
Much success to you with your CPAP therapy, and finding a mask.

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05-25-2016 03:28 PM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
(05-25-2016 02:59 PM)nativedancer Wrote:  I love the Simplus, but I do find that I have to re-adjust the straps during the night, and usually much tighter than the Simplus rep recommended when he demonstrated it. I end up with red crease marks on my cheeks, but no pain on the nose bridge like i experienced with my former mask,the mirage quattro.
Hi nativedancer,
Good to hear from you again.
I finally switch to the Sinplus mask and really like it.

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05-25-2016 03:35 PM
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RE: F&P Simplus Issue
That farting noise happens with many full face masks. It's air coming out of the mask in burps and/or so fast it is vibrating in the breeze. When I tried the Mirage Quattro, it was farting and making high pitched noises. Really romantic.

I now use liners because I have very oily skin. The liners help with leaks as well as keep the hot silicone off my skin.

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