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F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
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RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
(07-17-2021, 10:37 AM)Crimson Nape Wrote: One of the most common things that Simplus and Vitera users make is to over tighten the upper straps. I've found that if you leave these straps loose enough to allow the vertical part of the mask frame to be about 1" (25 mm) away from your eyebrow area face, it will greatly reduce these leaks.

A good start is to review the articles attached to the links in my signature.

- Red
I measured and my distance is 1 inch. Please see what I just posted to SarcasticDave94 about the upper forehead straps.
I will read the articles.
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#12
RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
I'm going to try the 1" space suggestion. Thanks.
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#13
RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
If there is still tension at 1", you can allow a larger clearance. It's basically plus or minus a football field. Basically, the lower straps handle the sealing and the uppers straps are just there... While pressure testing the mask, if you press on the upper mask support, like it is under tension, you will experience leaking. That is why I recommend having them very loose.

Also, Dave has probably said this, but F&P's like to ride low.
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RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
Verifying a few things to help, for me my medium Vitera did better if I had it ride lower than my ResMed F20. I felt the Vitera did better that way, as it sat on a wider part of my nasal bridge. And no strap should be so loose it's hanging with no tension at all. Loosen the velcro straps and bring them in to have a small amount of tension.
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RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
Thanks Crimson Nape and SarcasticDave94- I will try the additional suggestions.
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RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
I contacted my local guy about the 'wheezing' sound from my machine and yes, it was from the machine -- not the mask, headgear, reservoir, etc.

Since it was still under warranty, he replaced it.  He said he'd had a few others to be returns as well so it may be a common issue -- if your machine is under warranty, check it out -- they aren't cheap to replace.  So I have same kind of unit, just brand new and so far, no wheezing.

My problem remains -- I tighten my headgear as told --- snug but not too tight.  Turn over a time or two and I have leaks.  Seldom do I get a score of 100 because I have to readjust my mask.  So, I tighten it enough I feel it's glued to my face!!!

I asked about the FULL FACE mask -- have seen photos of it and the local shop doesn't have them in yet but I'm willing to try it.  Wondering if it the air will blow into my face and eyes.

I asked the girl at the desk about the most complaints they get and she said AIR LEAKS -- people repeatedly return thinking they are doing something wrong but they too have same issues.  

Just can't get it right all the time!!

Too-funny
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RE: F. & P. Vitera full face mask leak
OK, first I have to backtrack on a post of mine earlier. I said that no straps would hang loose. I myself haven't let mine go that slack, so maybe it'll work even better than what I've experienced earlier.

Try this, folks that are having Vitera leak issues: as I've mentioned before try to install and adjust it while lying back on you bed. Try not to look at ResMed's mask fit and the grinning and frowning ghouls. Rely on your hand and face to feel for leaks around the mask cushion perimeter, and your OSCAR leak chart.

Now under PAP pressure, hold the mask in place as if wearing it but without straps on. Attach and adjust the bottom set, start out very light tension. Now very light tension on the top set. Adjust the bottom set for leak control. You may need to pull the mask off your face to allow the cushion to unfold if it's been grabbing at your skin and not sliding into place properly. Mine tends to bunch up a bit on my nasal bridge area, but lifting it up and resetting the mask fixes it for me. The straps need to be adjusted lightly because of RollFit, the folded bellows portion on the silicone cushion.

If any of you move lots while asleep or bump the mask hard on something, it may move out of place.
Dave

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