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woozie38 Offline

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Joined: Jan 2013

Machine: Fisher & Paykel Icon + Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Integral
CPAP Pressure: 8 to 14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: 17 years of CPAP + supp. oxygen @ 3 L/min

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Australia

Post: #1
Smile Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
5
I give this machine five stars because it:-
1. is competitively priced being around $200 less than most
2. does what it is supposed to do
3. has an attractive and functional design
4. has a large humidifier pot concealed within the machine itself
5. F&P's SensAwake is a new innovation which is effective & comfortable.

1. My US supplier lists the S9 autoset with H5i humidifier at US$883.
F&P Icon+ Auto with inbuilt humidifier is listed at US$650, which
makes it really good value.
2. I've had my Icon for almost a month & find it very quiet, efficient &
easy to set up & use. Setting & adjusting pressures is easy,
setting things like humidity, clock, alarm, display darkness etc. all
easy to do using the single button and surrounding ring on the
machine's front panel. Sleep data is recorded in real time on what is
actually a custom designed SD card which plugs straight into your
PC USB port. No card reader required! An added benefit is your
night's sleep data is available that same morning.
Sleepyhead vers.09.30 reads the information from Icon's card with no
issues.
3. The design of Icon gives it a rather small footprint which means it
can sit on a bedside or small table and leave room for your
flashlight, glasses, whatever. The LC display shows either time in 12
or 24 hour format, or the current therapy pressure. Better still, this
display in on the machine's front and is illuminated all night by a
dim-able back light, So its easy to see from your sleeping position.
4. The humidifier pot holds a fair amount of water sufficient almost for
two nights. The pot is cleverly concealed within the machine with
access being via a bayonet type cover. Easy to remove with a part
turn to the left. Variable heat settings from 0 to 7 are available to
control the amount of water vapour in your PAP air.
5. I was a bit dubious about SensAwake. After six years of Resmed's
EPR (which I if found to be very comfortable and easy to get
accustomed to), I doubted SensAwake could or would be as good.

It is as good, but in a different way. SensAwake as the name says,
senses when you are awake by the frequency of the vibrations of the
air column from your airway to the machine. When it detects you are
awake it reduces the pressure to a comfortable level where it
remains until you drop off to sleep.

My numbers have remained the same as with my previous machine with my AHI just below the dreaded 5.

It's hard to find something not to like about the Icon. F&P have put a lot of R&D into this device and as long as it has the durability of their SleepStyle models, in my opinion, this machine is a winner.

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06-25-2014 11:37 PM
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Skypilot Offline

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Joined: Jun 2014

Machine: ResMed Hire
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: AIRFITâ„¢ P10 nasal pilow
Humidifier: H5i Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: Doc said to try 12; was 14
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: The land of Nod is but a dream.

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: Canberra, Australia

Post: #2
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
I thought the F&P was rather noisy compared to the Resmed.
I lack understanding how the sensawake is supposed to work. At night you are supposed to be asleep yet the machine thinks you are awake but you are asleep and thus reduces the therapy?
06-26-2014 06:30 AM
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SuperSleeper Offline

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Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: PR System One REMstar Auto (DS560)
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Mirage Swift II
Humidifier: none
CPAP Pressure: 12.5 - 18.5 cmH20 (auto range)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Have diabetes Type II

Sex: Male
Location: Illinois, USA

Post: #3
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
Nicely done review. Thanks. Coffee

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06-26-2014 12:08 PM
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woozie38 Offline

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Posts: 248
Joined: Jan 2013

Machine: Fisher & Paykel Icon + Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Integral
CPAP Pressure: 8 to 14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: 17 years of CPAP + supp. oxygen @ 3 L/min

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Australia

Post: #4
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
(06-26-2014 06:30 AM)Skypilot Wrote:  I thought the F&P was rather noisy compared to the Resmed.
I lack understanding how the sensawake is supposed to work. At night you are supposed to be asleep yet the machine thinks you are awake but you are asleep and thus reduces the therapy?
I find the Icon+ Auto quieter than my old Resmed S8. My wife agrees. She says its the quietest machine I've ever had!
SensAwake senses the nature of your breathing whist you are awake. It also senses your breathing whist your are asleep. It can tell the difference, so when one is asleep it delivers therapy pressure. When one wakes up it registers this and reduces the delivered pressure to a much lower and comfortable level. When you go back to sleep it returns to therapy pressure and so on.

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06-26-2014 06:43 PM
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PaulaO2 Offline
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Joined: Feb 2012

Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, Hypermobility Type; chronic sarcasm

Sex: Undisclosed
Location: western NC, USA

Post: #5
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
Which makes sense because then you don't get any false events. I get several central events recorded during the time between when I first wake up and I turn the machine off. It takes me a while to wake up enough to sit up and turn the machine off. During that time, I am stretching, yawning, etc.

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06-26-2014 08:48 PM
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Posts: 36
Joined: May 2012

Machine: tester - lots
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: tester lots
Humidifier: ResMed S-9 climateline
CPAP Pressure: APAP 15-17
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Truck driver active on issues with apnea and DOT medical exams.

Sex: Male
Location: Batavia, Il

Post: #6
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
If you're looking at running the icon on battery via an inverter or in a semi with optimized idle check into the power supply issues.

Just finished up testing an accessory power supply transformer to address malfunctions like scrambled compliance data and unexplained stopping when being run on 12 via inverter.

With the transformer in an Apu equipped truck no issues.

(Just a truck driver with sleep apnea )
02-04-2015 04:03 AM
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Woodslinger Offline

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Posts: 18
Joined: Jan 2015

Machine: Fisher Paykel Icon+ Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed AirFit F10
Humidifier: Integrated into unit
CPAP Pressure: 11.5 - 16
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Every day I wake up and don't smell roses and hear organ music is a good day.

Sex: Male
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Post: #7
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
Are you able to see flow rate graphs using Version 9.30?

As of 12/30/2014, Sleepyhead ceased to be able to import this data from my ICON's SD card.
02-04-2015 09:59 AM
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woozie38 Offline

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Posts: 248
Joined: Jan 2013

Machine: Fisher & Paykel Icon + Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Integral
CPAP Pressure: 8 to 14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: 17 years of CPAP + supp. oxygen @ 3 L/min

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Australia

Post: #8
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
(02-04-2015 09:59 AM)Woodslinger Wrote:  Are you able to see flow rate graphs using Version 9.30?

As of 12/30/2014, Sleepyhead ceased to be able to import this data from my ICON's SD card.

On my Icon+ Auto, I can see all available data with no problem. I know there is a difference between Icon & Icon+ regarding data, but I don't know the exact nature of the difference. I'm currently using vers. 9.6 Sleepyhead.

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03-02-2015 03:52 PM
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woozie38 Offline

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Posts: 248
Joined: Jan 2013

Machine: Fisher & Paykel Icon + Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Integral
CPAP Pressure: 8 to 14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: 17 years of CPAP + supp. oxygen @ 3 L/min

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Australia

Post: #9
RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon+ Auto
(06-26-2014 12:08 PM)SuperSleeper Wrote:  Nicely done review. Thanks. Coffee

An Icon+ feature I was unaware off at the time was the ease of locating the on/off button in the dark. All one has to do is locate with fingertips the machine's big button on the front panel & press.

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03-02-2015 03:58 PM
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