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Question Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
The day with ProResp didn't go as well as planned. The resp therapist there was even more condescending than the one I usually dealt with.
She insisted that an S9 AutoSet was $7,000 and later changed that to $1,500, She kept insisting I didn't "need" it despite what was on the prescription and she tried dumping the above mentioned F&P Icon Premo on me.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
Can I get feedback from someone?
While the clinician menu was tricky to enter I did it.
But where do I stick an SD card? I heard from somewhere it is not compatible with SleepyHead. What can I use, if anything?

I want to keep tabs on how I'm sleeping, pressure changes etc.
Obviously if I can't hook this bugger up to any software that would be difficult. So I'm borrowing this and I have to (get to?) send this one back eventually. But any insight would be helpful.

I was told that if I purchased an S9 outright I would not get reimbursed. I feel this woman was trying to make a sale, a profit.
But I want insight - what can anyone say about this machine?
The Icon Premo, not the ResMed S9. Okay
03-01-2013 04:32 PM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
Call some other DME's and find out if you can get the S9 from them. Then call this creep back and tell her that if she doesn't give you what you want you'll switch to another DME. Tell her you want the issue "escalated" and you want to talk to her supervisor.

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03-01-2013 04:37 PM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
(03-01-2013 04:37 PM)Sleepster Wrote:  Call some other DME's and find out if you can get the S9 from them. Then call this creep back and tell her that if she doesn't give you what you want you'll switch to another DME. Tell her you want the issue "escalated" and you want to talk to her supervisor.

But you are not recommending this other machine she dumped on me.
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03-01-2013 04:39 PM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
Correct. I am not. The only machines I recommend are the subset of the PRS1 and ResMed machines that are fully data-capable .

http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ne_Choices

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03-01-2013 04:44 PM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
(03-01-2013 04:32 PM)Ugly Wrote:  She kept insisting I didn't "need" it despite what was on the prescription and she tried dumping the above mentioned F&P Icon Premo on me.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
Can I get feedback from someone?
In the main forum you,ll get more feedback

the Icon Premo is not an APAP but data capable machine so in this regard is one step better than S9 Escape but not as good as S9 Elite
http://www.fphcare.com.au/products/fp-icon-premo/

Supplier #26 have InfoSmart software for $89. I've seen reports of SleepyHead supports of the Icon

Icon setup video: http://vimeo.com/20560260
03-01-2013 06:22 PM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
(03-01-2013 06:22 PM)zonk Wrote:  
(03-01-2013 04:32 PM)Ugly Wrote:  She kept insisting I didn't "need" it despite what was on the prescription and she tried dumping the above mentioned F&P Icon Premo on me.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
Can I get feedback from someone?
In the main forum you,ll get more feedback

I was unsure of which forum to use.

Quote:the Icon Premo is not an APAP but data capable machine so in this regard is one step better than S9 Escape but not as good as S9 Elite

She kept tooting her horn on how it is an APAP and comparable to an AutoSet and of course insisted that she's so much smarter than me in that regard. Actually she said how she went to school to get to where she's at and therefore knows better. I felt all she did was talk down to me.

Quote:Supplier #26 have InfoSmart software for $89. I've seen reports of SleepyHead supports of the Icon

But I'm trying to figure out does it take an SD card and if so where do I stick it? Or do I have to tell HER where to stick it?
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03-01-2013 11:52 PM
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Quote:I was unsure of which forum to use.

The Review area is for reviews. As in "I used x doodad and thought it was super keen and groovy. Here's why."

The Main area is for "Has anyone used x doodad?"

I moved this thread to the Main forum so it can get the attention it deserves.

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03-02-2013 01:33 AM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
Seeing as this IS Canada we are talking about, there is a Department for everything and you can take this person to the Department of Health and Welfare in your Province and register a complaint - she cannot dump the machine on you and you can refuse it and insist on the correct machine to match your Rx. I suggest that you take it back, after getting the name of a contact person at the DHW, and tell her that you either get the machine you want and that fits the Rx and that it will be paid by insurance or you will report her. And then report her anyway.

Condescending little shite. Can't stand that..... I know that the Canadian health system, and even in Ontario with its weird two level system and broken and overworked medicare it works better than that - that is someone taking advantage of you and probably getting a kick back, not surprising given how corrupt some med help people are in Ontario. And there are lots of them in Ontario who are....
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03-02-2013 05:53 AM
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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
Shes running a crooked operation.
$7,000 for an S9 Autoset??? Must the the solid gold edition..

As for her schooling, the world is full of educated morons.
I bet she doesn't even know what a Doppler Sublimated Magneto is.
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I agree it is time to change to another DME.

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RE: Fisher & Paykel Icon Premo (comments?)
Please tell use you didn't accept the Icon Premo. Isn't being screwed with an S9 Escape bad enough?

(03-01-2013 06:22 PM)zonk Wrote:  the Icon Premo is not an APAP but data capable machine so in this regard is one step better than S9 Escape but not as good as S9 Elite
http://www.fphcare.com.au/products/fp-icon-premo/

Supplier #26 have InfoSmart software for $89. I've seen reports of SleepyHead supports of the Icon

Icon setup video: http://vimeo.com/20560260

There's no airflow waveform recording on the Icon machines. I wouldn't classify it as fully data capable.

Sleephead doesn't support icon yet according to sourceforge.

Get the free SleepyHead software here.
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