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From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
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hcubed Offline

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Machine: Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: AirFit P10
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: 10
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Utah

Post: #1
From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
After being on a CPAP machine for about 5 months, I have successfully made the transition from a full face mask to nasal pillows. Originally I was a mouth breather but wanted to try out the nasal pillows because it seemed less intrusive. It didn't work out so well. I had air leaks off the charts and kept waking up to the noise because I was breathing through my mouth. So I switched to a full face mask and the air leaks went away and I slept very well. During this time period I was consciously trying to breath through my nose during my everyday activities. Whenever I'm working out, running, or just sitting at my desk, I would force and think to myself and breathe through my nose. I would also use a neti pot every night just to clear out my sinuses. A couple of weeks ago, I switched to the nasal pillows and an amazing thing happened... very little air leaks. It was averaging 2l/m and I didn't even wake up once. My AHI is even lower now, .3. Before, it was around .8.
04-28-2015 12:33 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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Posts: 6,449
Joined: May 2012

Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

Sex: Female
Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #2
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
Hi hcubed,
It's good to hear that your change back to nasal pillows is going well.
Keep up the good work.

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04-28-2015 01:00 PM
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snowdrop Offline

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Posts: 26
Joined: Mar 2015

Machine: REMstar Pro C-Flex+
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: unsure
CPAP Pressure: 6
CPAP Software: Other Software

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Post: #3
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
Good for you!

(I would love to switch, but suspect I'll need surgery to fix my deviated septum first)
04-28-2015 01:04 PM
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trailrider Offline

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Posts: 304
Joined: Feb 2015

Machine: A10 Autoset for Her
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Eson or P10
Humidifier: autoset
CPAP Pressure: 6-12 DME, 7-13 me
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: engineer. EPR at 3, unheated hose, humidity at 2. Routine hose entanglement.

Sex: Female
Location: Ontario

Post: #4
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
WOW! 0.8 and 0.3 on a regular basis! That is excellent! Congratulations on your therapy!
(nah, that's not too many exclamation marks for this!)
04-28-2015 01:24 PM
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truetopath Offline

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Posts: 421
Joined: Feb 2015

Machine: PR system one 560p auto with a flex
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Resumed F10
Humidifier: PR system one
CPAP Pressure: 11
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Lake View, NY

Post: #5
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
Awesome! Congrats on the great progress!
04-28-2015 03:49 PM
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woozie38 Offline

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Posts: 248
Joined: Jan 2013

Machine: Fisher & Paykel Icon + Auto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: Integral
CPAP Pressure: 8 to 14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: 17 years of CPAP + supp. oxygen @ 3 L/min

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Australia

Post: #6
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
(04-28-2015 12:33 PM)hcubed Wrote:  After being on a CPAP machine for about 5 months, I have successfully made the transition from a full face mask to nasal pillows. Originally I was a mouth breather but wanted to try out the nasal pillows because it seemed less intrusive. It didn't work out so well. I had air leaks off the charts and kept waking up to the noise because I was breathing through my mouth. So I switched to a full face mask and the air leaks went away and I slept very well. During this time period I was consciously trying to breath through my nose during my everyday activities. Whenever I'm working out, running, or just sitting at my desk, I would force and think to myself and breathe through my nose. I would also use a neti pot every night just to clear out my sinuses. A couple of weeks ago, I switched to the nasal pillows and an amazing thing happened... very little air leaks. It was averaging 2l/m and I didn't even wake up once. My AHI is even lower now, .3. Before, it was around .8.

Many PAP people have noted - we have 365 sleeps per year - not a year of 365 sleeps. In other words nothing is going to remain the same for you after your switch. You will need to watch for increased leaks showing in Sleepyhead because of what is erroneously called mouth breathing. (actually therapy air escaping via your mouth) This is uncomfortable, unhealthy & bad for your teeth. I have yet to see a chin strap that causes the lower jaw to protrude forward. Most have the opposite effect. The "Parallel law of vectors" shows us that such an effect is impossible. Congratulation on your super low AHI. I hope it stays low and your SDB remains controlled. Good luck!

[Image: signature.png]Keep on breathin'
05-02-2015 08:29 PM
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macbob Offline

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Joined: Mar 2015

Machine: AirSenseâ„¢ 10 AutoSet For Her
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Nuance Pro Nasal Pillow Mask with Gel Nasal Pillow
Humidifier: HumidAirâ„¢ Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 7-15
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

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Sex: Male
Location: Hampton Roads, VA

Post: #7
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
(04-28-2015 01:04 PM)snowdrop Wrote:  Good for you!

(I would love to switch, but suspect I'll need surgery to fix my deviated septum first)

SD-You might want to look at the Nuance pillows mask. I have a severely deviated septum, but I've found I get a good seal with this mask. There is very little of the pillows that enter the nostrils, the seal is formed by the gel shell on the outside of the nostrils.

I don't like how high the straps ride on my face (too close to my eyes), but I am able to get a good seal with what I consider to be very loose straps. Key for me was not to have them tight enough to pull the gel shells into my nostrils.
05-02-2015 09:37 PM
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Moriarty Offline

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Joined: Jul 2012

Machine: Respironics REMStar 50 Series Auto
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Pakel Pilairo Q
Humidifier: Respironics System One
CPAP Pressure: 8.5-20 (average 9.4)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Image above is my CPAP machine...

Sex: Male
Location: Toowoomba - Qld - Australia

Post: #8
RE: From a Full Face Mask to Nasal Pillows
(04-28-2015 12:33 PM)hcubed Wrote:  After being on a CPAP machine for about 5 months, I have successfully made the transition from a full face mask to nasal pillows. .....

Congratulations...

My story is almost the same as yours - for those of us where mouth breathing is more of a bad habit than out of necessity the effort to retrain is well worth while.

The thing I had not really noticed until I stopped using the Hybrid mask that I started with was the effect the mask had on my bite. It was pushing my lower jaw out of position - and the mask wasn't even very tight.

Disclaimer: The 'Advisory Member' title is a Forum thing that I cannot change. I am not a doctor and my comments are purely my opinion or quote my personal experience. Regardless of my experience other readers mileage may vary.
05-02-2015 09:59 PM
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