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Full Face Mask issue
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Full Face Mask issue
I have been using an Apex Wizard 220 FFM for 6 months and love it.  Inexpensive mask and replacement cushions.  Great for side sleeping.  But after 6 months the little flap in the joint went south.  So I switched to my new Quattro FX that was a backup.  First night went pretty good.  The next 4 nights I wake up with the bottom cushion in my mouth.  Drives me nuts and of course is not doing the job then.

Last night I decided to put tape over the vent in the Wizard 220 thinking this should be fine unless the electricity goes out and if it did I have heard you'd wake up anyway.  Well, I tried that and it feels a tad stuffy that way.  Not sure why.  So I went to the Quattroo FX, a short while later I woke with it in my mouth again.  Then I switched to my old Apex 210 nasal mask and had bad results with that.  Felt way bad today.

Anyway, until I can get a replacement Wizard 220 I'm thinking I should be ok to use it with the joint vent taped, shouldn't I?

And, though I hesitate to bring this up, is there another mask that is super for FFM?  I know hardly anyone uses the Wizard 220 but I have liked it alot, although I do notice in the morning my lower teeth and gum area does feel the pressure from the night before.
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#2
RE: Full Face Mask issue
Sounds like the Quattro may be too small for you if it's pulling up into your mouth.

I had bad luck with leakage on the Quattro Air and the Amara View, but the new Airtouch F20 (brand new, memory foam seal) works wonderfully, though I do have to run it a bit tighter than what would normally be comfortable.
For me, the FF is a backup for when my nose is irritated or I'm too congested for the nasal pillows.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
(06-27-2017, 11:31 PM)CB91710 Wrote: Sounds like the Quattro may be too small for you if it's pulling up into your mouth.
I think the size is ok as it worked ok one nite and it is similar in size to my Wizard 220.  For some reason it gets out of position and or I need to learn to place it better.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
I think I will replace it with another Wizard as they are cheap as is their cushions, although this is still the original cushion after six months of use.  Also, easy to clean and no leaks, great for side sleeping.
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#5
RE: Full Face Mask issue
The more I think about it I believe I will use the new REsmed mask and try to get used to it for now unless someone can convince me it's safe to sleep without a functioning anti-asphyxia valve on a FFM.  Now that I think about it every mask I used took some adjusting to to get used to, sometime a number of days.  

My thoughts are there's hardly any chance the electricity will go off and if it did I would probably wake up but the uncertainty here is causing me to play it safe. Not unless someone was observing at this point would I want to attempt this.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
Although I am a newbie here I am not new to sleep apnoea (over 20 years).  My experience is that whenever a power cut occurs (I live in a rural area in England so it happens every few months) I always wake immediately so agree you are also likely to do so.  You will be better to persevere with your Quattro mask I am sure  - once you are used to it you will find it easy to use in the future if you switch masks - just make sure that the lower straps are the correct tightness. 

Do you open your mouth (and breathe through it?) if so that is something best avoided with the Quattro mask if you can. Sleep-well
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
(06-28-2017, 12:56 PM)bigtonio Wrote:   

Do you open your mouth (and breathe through it?) if so that is something best avoided with the Quattro mask if you can. Sleep-well

I must open it to some degree because when I used a nasal mask my average lph was 24, while with the FFM my leak rate is now 0 at 95%.

It appears the Wizard mask actually helps to keep my mouth shut the way it's built where the Quattro has less lip support and allows my mouth to open, but I'm guessing on the later.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
I hate the quattro fx mask. always rides up. tightening just makes it worse. If there were any way to return or try something else, I'd look to do just that.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
(06-28-2017, 02:25 PM)dmeRT Wrote: I hate the quattro fx mask.  always rides up.  tightening just makes it worse.  If there were any way to return or try something else, I'd look to do just that.

wasn't sure but i was thinking it was riding up also.  Plus this sucker leaks at the nose unless you fiddle with it forever and then back to leaking.  I want my Wizard 220 again.  It's absolutely perfect in every way.
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RE: Full Face Mask issue
+1 on the f20, Only i'm using the silicon cussion.
mask fit http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php...ask_Primer
For auto-cpap from machine data, or software. Set the min pressure at 'med' median pressure or 90% OR 2cm below 95% pressure. max pressure at 20cm for now. Forum will help you fine tune settings
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