Honey might also work really well as a mask sealer. If you don't have ants where you live. Or puppies.
I own both the Air and F10 and I prefer the F10. It just sits a lot more comfortably on my face.
Mine does leak out around the bridge of my nose sometimes and I rolling over on my side and pressing it into the pillow a little fixes it (at least long enough for me to go to sleep) much better than trying to re-seat it until it goes away.
09-02-2014, 03:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-02-2014, 10:03 AM by vsheline.)
(09-01-2014, 09:59 PM)zonk Wrote: I'm worried the F10 might leak into my eyes
As long as I use a mask liner the F10 doesn't leak into my eyes, even though my IPAP usually varies between 20 to 25 all night, every night.
The next best FFM for me is the Quattro FX, but I also need a liner with it.
If you don't have opportunity to buy liners, just put the mask on old teeshirt-like material, on a table, and trace around the mask about half an inch or a quarter an inch larger than the mask, all around the periphery of the mask. Then cut it out and also cut out the inner one third as a mouth and tip-of-the-nose hole. (The liner needs to cover our nose bridge and lower lip/chin.)
The liners tend to touch our eyelashes, which is bothersome, so after we put the liner on (covering our nose bridge) and then put the mask on, we may need to very slightly fold or pull the liner away from our eyelashes, toward the bridge of our nose. But best not to fuss/pull on the liner very much.
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I've got to agree with vsheline, I recommend using a mask liner for anyone having a problem with leaks.
I've tried a variety of masks and have decided to stick with the Quattro Mirage. I accept the fact that it will always have some leakage - all masks will. The software says anything under 24 l/min is acceptable. That's all well and good so long as it isn't blowing into my eyes or making some distracting noise that keeps me awake.
To combat those issues, I use some tee-shirt liners that I custom cut. I don't claim the liner stops the leaks, it's more like it spreads them over a larger area which tends to diffuse and muffle them. That's especially helpful if it gets that jet blast out of my eyes.
Most of the time I just use a partial liner for my nose bridge area since that's where my most bothersome leaks occur. Other times (rarely), probably when my pressure needs are increased by the S9 Auto, I need a full face liner. Either way, the liners allow me to be completely unaware/unbothered by those leaks that would otherwise keep me awake and drive me to search for a better mask - been there, done that - there are none that don't leak. They also allow me to use less strap tension on the mask and minimize the facial torture it inflicts.
Sleep on your side, use a modified "half-back" sleeping position if need be, use mask liners if need be and your CPAP efforts will be most rewarding and easier tolerated.
New to this stuff but heres my take. I cant use nasal masks. No way they can shut my mouth enough to stop leaks because of missing teeth.
So FF or EF for me. Tried Amara silicone, which is the best of the bunch for me in the FF line but still falls way short of the Fitlife entire face mask. The FF all leak more, I just tried an Amara last night and spent an hour and a half in large leak territory.
Im always way low on leaks with the Fitlife. So thats what ill stick too from now on. And yes they make an XL in the Fitlife entire face. My DME didnt know they did but the hospital sleep lab had ordered and given me one in that size for the titration study.
(09-01-2014, 09:59 PM)zonk Wrote:
Time to put the kettle on for a nice cup of tea with slice of lemon
A spot of Bundaberg Red Rum in the tea will kill the germs!
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