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He ditched his BiPAP for tape
#11
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
Sigh.

Actually, you prove my point with your "Karens" example.
It does not describe a strict demographic category but rather an attitude. (commonly pointed at middle aged females but not inclusive)

(But, yes, I did catch that attempt at an inaccurate poke.)

There is a difference in using a stereotype against an entire demographic category and using a descriptive word for an individual.
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#12
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
I wasn't calling you a Karen, so apologies if you were offended. I merely sought to show that petty labels don't strengthen or legitimise an argument, in fact the opposite.
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#13
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
I apologize for use of a descriptive word you find offensive.
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RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
(10-13-2022, 10:28 PM)Brazen Wrote: It's my exerience that the stereotypical "boomer" term is used when someone thinks they know better than everyone else. That includes the medical community. 


When I watched the video, "boomer"  was not what would come to my mind first, nor did I think he came off as knowing more than others.   
I hope he ends up here on the forum someday so he can receive the help he needs.

With that said:  to lighten up the subject a bit...

I assume there are many "boomers" on this forum along with many from these groups:

Just some fun facts...or not.   Rolleyes

Baby Boomers: born 1946 to 1964. ...
Generation Jones: born 1955 to 1965. ...
Generation X: born 1965 to 1980. ...
Xennials: born 1977 to 1983. ...
Millennials: born 1981 to 1996. ...
Generation Z: born 1997 or after. ...
Generation Alpha: born 2010 or after.
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RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
(10-14-2022, 08:12 AM)OpalRose Wrote: When I watched the video, "boomer"  was not what would come to my mind first, nor did I think he came off as knowing more than others.   
I hope he ends up here on the forum someday so he can receive the help he needs.

....

That was my thought too, so I put a comment on his video pointing to this forum.
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#16
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
Tape can be effective as an accessory to certain categories of sleep disturbances.  But using it alone can be a dangerous 'prescription' to some categories of more severe sleep apnea.  We'll of course never hear from those (short-term or long-term) who got into significant medical troubles by using it alone to completely resolve their lack of air intake for their more severe situations.  

There are more than a few that have multiple conditions, that make them very different from the YouTube poster.  I'm all for freedom of speech of "this worked for me" but shudder at those who claim lightly (or more) that "this will work for you".  More than a few have perished for taking a pereived pseudo-medical cure-all.

Having said that, tape + xPAP is more popular than we think.  A sleep doctor once confirmed how a significant portion of his patients use tape as an aid with xPAP, though patients are often reluctant to disclose that detail.
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#17
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
Brazen thanks for posting this.

I appreciate the comments that all have made. I start to think about my own experiences with OSA. I wish it was possible to buy a tooth guard and heat it and solve all my problems.

Reality is I can't tell if my treatment is working unless I feel better due to it. I know that everyone's suggestions here have helped me with my treatment.

My worst treatment came from the medical care I received in my country. In my province. It didnt start getting better until I learned to listen to the wonderful volunteers here.

Brazen your comments on my posts have really been helpful. Thank you.

DaveL
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I'm just a cpap user like you. I don't give medical advice. Seek the advice of a physician before seeking treatment for medical conditions including sleep apnea. Sleep-well

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#18
RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
Boomer, A nuclear submarine that carries ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. US Designation SSBN.

The ultimate don't you dare weapon. With 16 missiles each with a classified number of independent warheads, each submarine could easily devastate a country if so ordered. During my time we had 41 of them, I served on two.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
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RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
(10-14-2022, 05:30 PM)Gideon Wrote: I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

Wow, didn't know that nuclear submarines were called "boomers."

"Boomer" aka Baby Boomer Too-funny
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RE: He ditched his BiPAP for tape
Not just any old nuclear submarines, just FBM (Fleet Ballistic Missile) submarines.

FYI I am a part of the Baby boomer generation. I had no idea there was any negative connotation to the "Boomer" term.

Yes, I am a Bubblehead (Submariner)

MM1(SS)/ELT
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