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Eye Issues
I just went through some eye issues and saw my eye doc. In our conversation, we discussed CPAP use, computer use, and dry eyes.

I asked if I could overuse the dry eye lubrication drops and he said YES. The problem is the amount of preservative used in the product, not the actual lubrication process. The preservative builds up in our eyes and can cause problems. (i forgot to ask what those problems were)

- avoid brands like Visine and to use Systane or those for people with contacts.
- avoid those for "red eyes" as they contain decongestants and can worsen dry eyes.
- only use lubricant drops 4-5 times a day. If I need it more than that, to see him again.
- to be careful to not contaminate the bottle tip or to use these new single use things. I said I thought the single use things were wasteful so he said to get the smallest bottle I could find and use that.

He also said that when we read a book or work at the computer, we decrease our blinking from 15-19 times a minute to less than 5! This increases dry eyes and eye strain.

As to CPAP use, he said my habit of using a warm wash cloth to wash my eyes (when one is stuck together in the morning) is good and that if they still felt gritty, to use the drops. I was going to ask if using them last thing at night would be good, too, but we were interrupted and we never got back to it. I think I will try it for a few nights to see if it is any different in the morning. I don't think it would make a difference due to the time factor.

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04-10-2015 03:54 PM
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RE: Eye Issues
(04-10-2015 03:54 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  I just went through some eye issues and saw my eye doc. In our conversation, we discussed CPAP use, computer use, and dry eyes.

I asked if I could overuse the dry eye lubrication drops and he said YES. The problem is the amount of preservative used in the product, not the actual lubrication process. The preservative builds up in our eyes and can cause problems. (i forgot to ask what those problems were)

- avoid brands like Visine and to use Systane or those for people with contacts.
- avoid those for "red eyes" as they contain decongestants and can worsen dry eyes.
- only use lubricant drops 4-5 times a day. If I need it more than that, to see him again.
- to be careful to not contaminate the bottle tip or to use these new single use things. I said I thought the single use things were wasteful so he said to get the smallest bottle I could find and use that.

He also said that when we read a book or work at the computer, we decrease our blinking from 15-19 times a minute to less than 5! This increases dry eyes and eye strain.

As to CPAP use, he said my habit of using a warm wash cloth to wash my eyes (when one is stuck together in the morning) is good and that if they still felt gritty, to use the drops. I was going to ask if using them last thing at night would be good, too, but we were interrupted and we never got back to it. I think I will try it for a few nights to see if it is any different in the morning. I don't think it would make a difference due to the time factor.

Thanks for sharing! It might come in handy someday!
04-10-2015 03:59 PM
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RE: Eye Issues
Paula02,
I have had eye irritation since CPAP use. I haven't seen my eye doc yet, but you confirmed everything I've read about eye drops. I recently switched to Systane Balance and it has made a world of difference. I also bought eyeseals, not eye goggles because they didn't fit properly.
I hesitated because they were pricey, but had a 30 day trial. They do create moisture all around the eye area, and my eyes don't feel so grity in the morning.
The only issue I have is this: I wear a P10 mask, chin strap, and eye seals, which have an elastic strap that goes around the head. It's a lot of stuff on my head, so some nights it's either the chin strap or the eye seals. One of them have to go!
Also tried the PR Total Face FitLife Mask thinking it might equalize the pressure and be easier on my eyes, but could not tolerate that mask, so back it went.
Hope your eye issues are resolved soon. Blink
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04-10-2015 05:04 PM
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RE: Eye Issues
Your eyes have their own lubricant which is delivered to them from tiny ducts in your upper eyelid. This according to my optometrist. Sometimes these ducts get plugged due to infection or other reasons (maybe not blinking enough). What he told me to do to help it first put warm/hot compresses on my upper eyelids for a while. This will tend to loosen up these ducts. Then wash the eyelid with an antibiotic soap and rinse well being very careful not to get soap on your eyeball.

This has worked better for me than any eye drops that I have ever used. YMMV

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04-10-2015 09:22 PM
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RE: Eye Issues
Yep! Used to work for me, too, but not any more. Not sure why. But thanks for the reminder! I'll start doing that in the mornings.

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04-11-2015 12:16 AM
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RE: Eye Issues
(04-10-2015 03:54 PM)PaulaO2 Wrote:  I was going to ask if using them last thing at night would be good, too, but we were interrupted and we never got back to it. I think I will try it for a few nights to see if it is any different in the morning. I don't think it would make a difference due to the time factor.

I would think that using the Systane Gel eyedrops at night just before you go to bed would be a good idea. That was my eye doc's suggestion as a first option if I started to get dry eye from lacrimal duct leakage. The gel should last longer in your eyes.

Best REgards,

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04-11-2015 12:07 PM
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RE: Eye Issues
I've had serious eye problems for some years, and the dry eye was particularly bad this winter. The eye specialist has always recommended that if you need to use eye drops regularly more than once a day, you need to use preservative free. They cost a lot collectively over the year, but is the best choice. I just use Walgreens brand, but I do prefer those ones that recap. I usually get one box of those for keeping a couple in my purse at all times. Need more than that? As he said, see him. My doc gave me this weird gel stuff, more like an ointment, to put into my eyes at night. Can't see a danged thing, but my eyes are much better than they were a couple of weeks ago.

You can use the drops last thing at night as well. Whenever you do use them, after the drops go in, close your eyes for 1 minute.
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RE: Eye Issues
Paula02

Thank you for sharing your information about dry eyes. Being as I have diabetes, it is important that I try to do the right thing. I never realized that Visine was not the best choice for eye drops. Appreciate your input.
04-17-2015 05:24 PM
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