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Holden versus Ford (ResMed v Philips Respironics)
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Post: #11
RE: Holden versus Ford
(11-10-2013 03:53 AM)vsheline Wrote:  I have the older S9 VPAP Adapt on which the Pressure Support auto-adjusts but EPAP is fixed (model# 36007), not like the PRS1 ASV machine and the new S9 VPAP Adapt (model# 36037) which can auto-adjust the EPAP as well as auto-adjust the Pressure Support.

I think the ResMed machine (model# 36037) is less adjustable and therefore more of a "One Size Fits Most" machine, but also simpler to use and less likely to have its settings messed up by clinician or user error.

Looking back at this post prompted me to check my own machine - it's a model 36377 with "Pacewave". I looked it up on the Resmed site and Pacewave looks like a magic bullet. I need to do some more research on it, and I don't know how it compares with the Philips equivalent, but I know it works well for me.

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11-14-2013 09:09 AM
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Post: #12
RE: Holden versus Ford
I,m using plain CPAP. I have not used PRS1 machines but being computer illiterate would not consider anything other than S9 machine because of the quality of data reported on the LCD screen
11-14-2013 03:47 PM
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Post: #13
ResMed vs. Philips Respironics
Just an observation...

I noticed that the members here on ApneaBoard seem to favor the ResMed S9 vs. the PRS1.

Why do you think that is?
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11-14-2013 04:38 PM
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Post: #14
ResMed vs. Philips Respironics
JohnNJ, not sure if there is an answer to that question, I got mine before I joined any sites, I just asked for the best machine no matter the cost and one that was the quietest with no lights and looked Ok.
11-14-2013 05:13 PM
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Post: #15
ResMed vs. Philips Respironics
I use ResMed S9 machine because I like the data reported on LCD screen especially unintentional leak
ResMed proud themselves of being Australian company but at the same time ripping us off ... Shame on them
11-14-2013 05:45 PM
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Post: #16
ResMed vs. Philips Respironics
I have had both Respironics and Resmed machines. For me, it seems like the Resmed machine is a bit gentler in it's delivery and looks a little less like a medical device because of it's sleak design, but that's just my take, YMMV and of course the design comment doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things when it comes to performance.
They are both comparable machines.
Good luck to you on your decision.
Edit: I thought I'd tell you in case you are curious, the only difference between the "For Her" moddle of the Resmed S9AutoSet is the color, the Silver Resmed S9AutoSet is the same machine as the pink one, just the cases are different colors..

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11-14-2013 06:31 PM
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Post: #17
ResMed vs. Philips Respironics
I want to be in control of my health which is why I'm here. If these machines were a few hundred instead of close to $1,000 I would just buy a few and try them out. Unfortunately, I have to choose wisely the first time and only based on one nights use and what I've read online.

Some of the PRS1 info I've read - US made, easier/quicker to get repaired and get parts, dishwasher safe humidifier, hose attached on top with swivel and the mask I used during the sleep test was comfortable. But the S9 is easier delivering the air, has better reporting, smaller, better design.

There's other stuff I can't remember right now but you get it.
11-14-2013 06:53 PM
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Post: #18
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(11-14-2013 06:53 PM)JohnNJ Wrote:  Some of the PRS1 info I've read - US made, easier/quicker to get repaired and get parts, dishwasher safe humidifier, hose attached on top with swivel and the mask I used during the sleep test was comfortable. But the S9 is easier delivering the air, has better reporting, smaller, better design.

There's other stuff I can't remember right now but you get it.

I've never used a PRS1, so am far from a reliable source for comparison; but here are some points to consider:

-Dishwasher safe humidifier chambers are available for the S9.
-The hose attachment point on the S9 is a pain...it should be in front or at the top like PRS1.
-PRS1 is a little more reasonably priced.
-I don't think you can change the internal clock on PRS1...you can on S9.
-S9 reports unintentional leak, PRS1 reports total leak and you have to do the math yourself.
-I'm not sure about the size difference; but wouldn't say one has a better design than the other - they are just designed a little different.


I think many of us are more biased toward model (System One and AutoSet) than brand (ResMed or PR). I would be happy with a PRS1 Auto, but very unhappy with S9 Escape Auto. The only reason I chose S9 AutoSet over PRS1 is because the crooked DME that tried to stick me with the S9 Escape Auto had to take the PAP back (because it was a rental agreement), but wouldn't take the H5i humidifier back because it was purchased outright. It just made sense to buy the machine I already had a humidifier to fit. Once you get started with a brand it is hard to switch because of accessory incompatibility (Humidifier, tanks, heated hoses, filters etc.)

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11-14-2013 08:27 PM
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Post: #19
RE: Holden versus Ford
(11-14-2013 09:09 AM)DeepBreathing Wrote:  Looking back at this post prompted me to check my own machine - it's a model 36377 with "Pacewave". I looked it up on the Resmed site and Pacewave looks like a magic bullet. I need to do some more research on it, and I don't know how it compares with the Philips equivalent, but I know it works well for me.

Hi DeepBreathing,

I now see that ResMed model numbers vary by region.

http://www.resmed.com/us/contact_us/chan...=contactus

If your machine has the ASVauto mode then I suspect your model 36377 would have same algorithm and capabilities as USA&Canada model 36037.

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Post: #20
RE: Holden versus Ford
I asked at the LL what they thought of the difference between the two machines discussed, and their take was that it was pretty much six of one, half a dozen of the other - the Philips is the better one for detailed data, some find the Resmed quieter (although some report the sound to be very high pitched), but overall it comes down to personal experience. Both machines work pretty much the same way when it comes to "breathing" with you, and in both cases it is you learning to adjust to the machine's methods than the other way around. On the whole the Philips is preferred here due to the better data differentiation and retention, but they feel that it is ultimately no real difference (they extend that to certain other manufacturers as well) and that any perceived difference is an individual one of the patient. As they put it - Mac or PC..... if it does the job, and you are happy with it, then that's all that counts.

As for Holden vs, Ford? William Holden was the better actor IMHO, but I have a soft spot for Glenn Ford. I'll take both, any day.
11-15-2013 06:48 AM
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