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How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
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03-12-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
Have you tried lowering your humidity for a day or two as another solution?
03-12-2017, 02:45 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
I don't understand the hesitation in using wet tubing that has just been washed. It has a nice fresh smell to it and I don't get any rain out except perhaps a drop or two.
I would be reluctant to let it dry by hanging it up for a few days. It seems that would be a good place for mold to grow. Some people dry the tubing by letting the machine blow air through it. I just noticed that Supplier #1 sells a cleaning kit that includes a wick for drying the tubing. They also sell an electric tubing dryer. I would be reluctant to use bleach. I use only nontoxic cleaners such as antibacterial soap with no moisturizers. I just now used some Control III disinfectant for the first time to clean my humidifier tub and mask cushion. I see lots of forum users talking about this product, and a friend of the forum sent me some quite a while back so I thought I'd try it. It got everything squeaky clean and the odor is not unpleasant or overwhelming.
Sleepster
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03-12-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
(03-12-2017, 01:52 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: Melman will appreciate this. They have studied people with chronic sinusitis and cultured their humidity resoervoirs and tubing and found "Having a positive culture in the CPAP reservoir does not seem to lead to an increased symptomatology of CRS: although the reservoirs often become colonized, there seems to be no clinical impact." Sorry Sleeprider, I couldn't help myself. This stuff was my life for decades and I miss it in retirement; so much so that I went into consulting for several years but my wife couldn't stand having me gone all the time. Unfortunately for the members of this forum, I have found an outlet. This was not intended as a putdown. I respect your expertise and appreciate the help you have given me.
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03-12-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
(03-12-2017, 02:45 PM)Sleepster Wrote: I would be reluctant to use bleach. I use only nontoxic cleaners such as antibacterial soap with no moisturizers. I just now used some Control III disinfectant for the first time to clean my humidifier tub and mask cushion. I see lots of forum users talking about this product, and a friend of the forum sent me some quite a while back so I thought I'd try it. It got everything squeaky clean and the odor is not unpleasant or overwhelming. Quaternary ammonium sanitizers are not non-toxic. See the MSDS: http://cf1.bettymills.com/product/MSDS/MON12004100.PDF They are safe if you handle the concentrate carefully and rinse equipment thoroughly after cleaning, but don't consider it none-toxic.
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03-12-2017, 05:49 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
Melman...it was a setup.
But thanks for your interpretation. I don't have much concern about contamination in the equipment, but I have seen a stubborn pink slime form when I've been particularly negligent. I get what appears to be the same organism in the pool, and it's surprisingly resistant to chemical attack.
Sleeprider
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03-12-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
yup, I know it well. Organisms in water systems form a complex biofilm which can be extremely resistant to chemical treatments. In the pharmaceutical industry we use we use strong acid treatment at high temp to remove it from stainless steel piping. not recommended for home use.
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03-12-2017, 06:06 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
Melman,
I ask the following question as a matter of my curiosity and not anything else. Why do you say that the distilled water purchased at a grocery store is already colonized? Best Regards, PaytonA
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03-12-2017, 06:15 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
(03-12-2017, 02:45 PM)Sleepster Wrote: I would be reluctant to use bleach. I use only nontoxic cleaners such as antibacterial soap with no moisturizers. Bleach is no big deal, I only use a small amount in a fairly large amount of water. Also, hot water de-activates the bleach ... I rinse the tube thoroughly - there is a bit of a residual bleach odor, but it's very mild. I have quite a bit of experience sanitizing beer bottles and cornelius kegs with bleach - lots of rinsing is the order of the day. FWIW I only clean the tube and reservoir maybe once every 2 months. Maybe. Antibacterial soap is evil. The antibacterial is not 100% effective, as such you're creating an evolutionary process and are breeding "stronger" bacteria. Also, the stuff gets in the environment and kills some stuff but not everything. Also not good. Soap, by itself, works well as it detaches bacteria from surfaces effectively ... no need for the antibacterial ingredients (other than paranoia). -Dave
03-12-2017, 06:34 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
Distilled does not mean sterile. I'm sure distilled water purchased at the supermarket is not produced in a sterile system or packaged in sterile bottles in an aseptic environment. It would be a lot more expensive if it were. Since the equipment, container, and the environment are not sterile there will be bacteria in the water. It is, therefore, colonized.
Anyone who wants sterile water should get USP sterile water for irrigation or injection at their pharmacy. The downside is it will cost at least $10/L rather than under $1/gal.
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03-12-2017, 07:18 PM
RE: How do I prevent rainout for 48 hours after washing Cpap tube
(03-12-2017, 06:04 PM)Melman Wrote: yup, I know it well. Organisms in water systems form a complex biofilm which can be extremely resistant to chemical treatments. In the pharmaceutical industry we use we use strong acid treatment at high temp to remove it from stainless steel piping. not recommended for home use. I use Star-San as a rinse after cleaning CPAP equipment...how do you like my chances?
Sleeprider
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