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312capri Offline

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Machine: Respironics BiPAP Pro
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro FX
Humidifier: Respironics System One Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 18/14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Quattro FX

Sex: Male
Location: New Mexico

Post: #1
Humidifier Water Useage
Being new I have a question about my Respironics Bi-Flex heated humidifier. I live in the New Mexico desert, just north of El Paso, Texas at an altitude of 3,800 ft. My machines humidifier settings range from 0 to 5. I have the machine set on 3 and in the morning after 8 hours of sleep the humidifier chamber is always almost completely empty. The relative humidity runs between 5% and 15% except during the July monsoon season. This seems like a lot of water to evaporate during 8 hours.

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06-04-2012 04:46 PM
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Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #2
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
I don,t use your machine but in general the amount of water varies from one person to the next with temp and humidity of bedroom.
If your full face happen to loose its seal during the night and allow air to escape through the mouth (mouth leak) it would use more water
Rainout is not an issue as you didn't mention check humidifier chamber and the hose is not leaking.
06-04-2012 05:43 PM
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312capri Offline

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Machine: Respironics BiPAP Pro
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro FX
Humidifier: Respironics System One Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 18/14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Quattro FX

Sex: Male
Location: New Mexico

Post: #3
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
Thanks the system is brand new and I don't find any leaks; however, I am still having problems with the Quattro FX (medium) face mask sealing around my lower mouth all night... I've awaken several times by the leaking air around my lower lip!

Using the included sizing device it seems to be the correct size for my face... The DME respiratory technician tried a larger size mask, which didn't appear to fit as well....

I'm still in the newbie adjusting phase and have only ten nights worth of experience... at this point my median AHI is 6 from my untreated 57. So I am feeling so much better.

How do I edit my profile to allow me to change from "full face mask" to Quattro FX?

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06-04-2012 05:58 PM
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Machine: S9 Autoset
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Post: #4
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
Quote:How do I edit my profile to allow me to change from "full face mask" to Quattro FX?

You can't. But you can say it in the "Other Comments" found in the User Control Panel. User CP under 'Edit Profile'.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...trol-Panel

As to the humidifier, I don't have the model either. But some nights it doesn't seem like it used any and other nights it can nearly empty the tank.

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06-04-2012 06:07 PM
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Machine: REMstar Auto AFlex DS550
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: RESMed Swift FX
Humidifier: Heated humidifier - 2
CPAP Pressure: 12.5-20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead EncoreBasic

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Sex: Male
Location: So Cal

Post: #5
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
Well Paula02 already answered this while I was getting specifics! But here ya go anyway!

Towards the top of the page underneath where it says Rules and Donate and such (pay attention to that one!) is a box that starts out with Welcome back #username#. You last visited: Date, Time (User CP - Log Out) Click directly on that User CP. This is your control Panel. This will pull up a new page and you will see a Menu box to your left.
In the Menu box on the left hand side of the screen, about halfway down is an "Edit Profile". Click on this and you will see all the info that you can change.

Mike

As always, YMMV! You do not have to agree or disagree, I am not a professional so my mental meanderings are simply recollections of things from my own life.

PRS1 - Auto - A-Flex x2 - 12.50 - 20 - Humid x2 - Swift FX
06-04-2012 06:11 PM
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Post: #6
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
(06-04-2012 05:58 PM)312capri Wrote:  I'm still in the newbie adjusting phase and have only ten nights worth of experience... at this point my median AHI is 6 from my untreated 57. So I am feeling so much better.

How do I edit my profile to allow me to change from "full face mask" to Quattro FX?

312capri
You've just said the magic words "feeling much better" Congrats
Whats the total leak [mask leak (unintentional leak) = total leak - mask vents leak (intentional leak)]
We can only put the type of mask in profile not the brand
06-04-2012 06:11 PM
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RE: Humidifier Water Useage
Quattro FX
http://www.resmed.com/au/products/quattr...c=patients

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06-04-2012 06:37 PM
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Post: #8
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
(06-04-2012 05:58 PM)312capri Wrote:  Thanks the system is brand new and I don't find any leaks; however, I am still having problems with the Quattro FX (medium) face mask sealing around my lower mouth all night... I've awaken several times by the leaking air around my lower lip!

So, the percent time spent in large leak is 0%?

You can turn the humidifier to a lower setting and then you won't use as much water.

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06-04-2012 07:53 PM
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312capri Offline

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CPAP Pressure: 18/14
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Quattro FX

Sex: Male
Location: New Mexico

Post: #9
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
The 7 day large leak is 8% and the 30 day is 9%; however, I've only had and used the machine 10 days....

Are those percentages high?

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06-04-2012 08:26 PM
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Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #10
RE: Humidifier Water Useage
Respironcis define large leak as percentage of time the machine detected a large leak and they don't say what is considered large leak so you have to look at your SH software to find out leak numbers. Resmed does report mask leak and draw the line of acceptable leak at 24 L/min.
For the humidity setting you can try turn it down see if it use less water and have to watch out it doesn't run out of water during the night as the plate would overheat otherwise keep a small bottle of water handy by the bedside just in case need topping up.
06-04-2012 09:12 PM
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