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oldmatelot Offline

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Machine: Remstar Pro C-Flex +
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: unsure
Humidifier: Phillips system 1 heated humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10.1
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Post: #1
Humidity
my system one heated humidifier does not seem to be providing the humidity that it used to --- I have it set to the max 5 and still really dry mouth.

The heater element is working - at least it is warm - bu on setting 5 it used to leave droplets in the tube now nothing.

any ideas?

Would the white filter missing make a difference?

Thanks
03-29-2013 01:40 PM
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trish6hundred Offline

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Machine: Resmed S9 AutoSet for Her
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: Fisher & Paykel Simplus
Humidifier: H5i Heated Humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10 - 7-20 Cm H2O
CPAP Software: Not using software

Other Comments: I started CPAP in 2008. Totally blind since birth.

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Location: Missouri, USA

Post: #2
RE: Humidity
Hi oldmatelot,
WELCOME! to the forum.!
I'm not sure why that would be but hang in there and someone will be able to answer your question, soon.
Best of luck to you.

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03-29-2013 02:32 PM
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Machine: PR System One DS560
Mask Type: Nasal pillows
Mask Make & Model: F&P Pilairo Q or ResMed Mirage Activa
Humidifier: PR System One
CPAP Pressure: 14 - 20
CPAP Software: SleepyHead

Other Comments: Former ResMed S8 Autoset II user

Sex: Male
Location: Eugene, Oregon

Post: #3
RE: Humidity
How much water is your humidifier using each night? Is it using less water than it was?

Is your bedroom getting warmer? (Did you start CPAP in the dead of winter?) You don't want water droplets in the tubing, which is a loss of humidification called rainout. Warm air holds more water vapor than cool air. The filters won't make a difference.

You might need a hose cover or a heated hose. Both help to improve humidification and prevent rainout by keeping the air in the hose warm.
03-29-2013 03:33 PM
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Machine: A10 AutoSet
Mask Type: Nasal mask
Mask Make & Model: Activa LT
Humidifier: Integrated /ClimateLineAir
CPAP Pressure: 9/13
CPAP Software: ResScan

Other Comments: CPAP since Nov 2010

Sex: Male
Location: Australia

Post: #4
RE: Humidity
(03-29-2013 01:40 PM)oldmatelot Wrote:  my system one heated humidifier does not seem to be providing the humidity that it used to --- I have it set to the max 5 and still really dry mouth.

The heater element is working - at least it is warm - bu on setting 5 it used to leave droplets in the tube now nothing.

any ideas?

Would the white filter missing make a difference?

Thanks
Your machine uses washable/reusable grey foam filter and a white disposable ultra-fine filter
You must at least use the grey reusable filter, the white filter screen finer particles

Water droplets in the hose is called "rainout"
Rainout is when start getting water in your hose. It's caused by the steamy air coming from the humidifier at a higher temperature than the surrounding room air, so it cools on the way to the mask

1- People use a heated hose or hose cover to help resolve this problem
2- Placing the machine lower than the bed
3- Turn the heater on the humidifier down so that it is closer to room temperature

The clinical manual of your machine is available via email, scroll down to "how to ask for a manual via email"
http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-pr...tup-manual

PR System One : http://www.apneaboard.com/pr-system-one-...structions
03-29-2013 04:35 PM
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oldmatelot Offline

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Machine: Remstar Pro C-Flex +
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: unsure
Humidifier: Phillips system 1 heated humidifier
CPAP Pressure: 10.1
CPAP Software: Not using software

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Sex: Male
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Post: #5
RE: Humidity
set on 5 it is now using about one twentieth of what it used to use on setting 3 -- have it set on 5 now to try and get as much as I can but dont think I am getting any humidity.
Have been on it for about a year now and only a problem in the last few weeks - used setting 3 and all was fine.\

No rainout now -- I just tried it to see months ago to see the humidity on 5
03-29-2013 10:37 PM
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Sleepster Offline
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Machine: ResMed AirCurve10 VAuto
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: HumidAir and SlimLine Hose
CPAP Pressure: MaxI 13.6 | MinE 5.2 | PS 4.4
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: Diagnosed Nov 2011. Conquered aerophagia.

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Location: Houston, Texas

Post: #6
RE: Humidity
The machine has a humidity sensor in it. When the air in your bedroom is more humid your machine won't add as much moisture to it so it uses less water.

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03-29-2013 10:59 PM
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Machine: S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: F&P Simplus
Humidifier: H5i
CPAP Pressure: 14-20
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Post: #7
RE: Humidity
Yep. The other night it was raining like mad. The next morning, it was as if I'd not used a drop of water in the tub. That's how I know it is time to turn it off in the summer. Then I just turn off the humidifier and use it in passive mode (water in the tank but no heat).

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03-30-2013 07:06 PM
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Shastzi Offline

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Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FitLife Total face mask
Humidifier: F&P HC150 with Hybernite heated hose.
CPAP Pressure: 15cm-20cm H2O (auto)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

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Post: #8
RE: Humidity
I have stopped using the H5i humidifier this week. If I take an 8 hour nap it's out of water and even turned up to 6 with ClimateLine hose I am still getting a dry mouth, and then I still would have hose moisture build up on cold nights!

This called for radical action!
I got in the Hybernite heated hose that has stopped the condensation. I disconnected the H5i and plugged a F&P HC150
for humidification.
The HC150 holds a good 500ml of water. After 8 hours it is still 1/3 full. I can turn it up to 3 (on a scale of 1-4)
and the dry mouth condition is gone.
A quick check of the water temperature shows 117 F. Looks like it has a decent heater.

The entire system is quite hideous looking but it WORKS.
I like things that work right.

=^.^=

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03-30-2013 08:07 PM
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Machine: ResMed S9 AutoSet
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Mask Make & Model: ResMed Quattro FX
Humidifier: ResMed H5i
CPAP Pressure: 18 - 20
CPAP Software: ResScan SleepyHead

Other Comments: CMS50I PulseOx

Sex: Male
Location: Ohio - USA

Post: #9
RE: Humidity
(03-30-2013 08:07 PM)Shastzi Wrote:  I got in the Hybernite heated hose that has stopped the condensation. I disconnected the H5i and plugged a F&P HC150
for humidification.
The HC150 holds a good 500ml of water. After 8 hours it is still 1/3 full. I can turn it up to 3 (on a scale of 1-4)
and the dry mouth condition is gone.
A quick check of the water temperature shows 117 F. Looks like it has a decent heater.

I take it the CA detection, pressure response and everything work properly? No screwy data?

I've been looking for a way to get more humidity for a longer period of time...if that's working, I'll be placing a couple of orders! SHa_biggrin5

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03-30-2013 08:55 PM
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Shastzi Offline

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Machine: ResMed S9 Autoset
Mask Type: Full face mask
Mask Make & Model: FitLife Total face mask
Humidifier: F&P HC150 with Hybernite heated hose.
CPAP Pressure: 15cm-20cm H2O (auto)
CPAP Software: SleepyHead Other Software

Other Comments: CMS50-F wearable Oximeter; Software: SPO2 Assistant

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Post: #10
RE: Humidity
No screwy data. Nope. I now have an ugly machine with long range tanks though! Big Grin

Shop around and you can find the HC150 for about $150 and the Hybernite hose for $50

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