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Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
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Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
 
Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work…

https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/treatment/treatment-methods/

The only alternative to Cpap-mask is the bimaxillary jaw advancement (BIMAX)

Professor Sailer is a renowned expert in oral and maxillofacial surgery who has been specialising in obstructive sleep apnoea for over 25 years. At Zurich University Hospital he developed the unique causal operation technique “Rotation Advancement” to cure sleep apnoea, which is now a routine procedure in the Klinik Professor Sailer and is proven scientifically to be successful.

Sleep Apnea surgery

Presentation of jaw advancement surgery "Rotation Advancement" by Prof. Sailer
Below the animated presentation of surgery with a cured patient.
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Finally restful sleep no snoring and no more breathing stops
Through the operation, the respiratory passages are permanently expanded. This procedure was developed at Zurich University Hospital by Professor Sailer more than 25 years ago and has been performed many thousands of times since then. This so-called “rotation advancement” technique cures the sleep apnoea; subsequent sleep laboratory examinations confirm this and scientific studies prove this.The new positioning of the upper and lower jaw leads to a forward displacement of the tongue, soft palate and palatal arch. This eliminates the life threatening night breathing stops.

No breathing mask or mandibular advancement splint anymore
After the procedure, the patient is cured from sleep apnoea permanently. Patients are no longer dependent on medical devices such as CPAP breathing masks, other breathing devices or tooth splints.

More performance ability and raised libido
Oxygen saturation in the blood is raised up to 100% with the expansion of the respiratory passages. The raised oxygen supply has a positive effect on all organs and the whole body. The patient has a restful sleep, is well-rested for the day, able to perform better and, according to the statements of many cured patients, has a raised libido once again.

No more high blood pressure
In almost all patients who have undergone the sleep apnoea operation, normal blood pressure was recorded a short time after the operation, without medicaments to lower blood pressure.
 

Rich
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RE: Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
I have not looked at this but the cynic in me wonders about anything advertising "more performance ability and raised libido". that might in fact be a benefit of treating apnea and reducing sleep deprivation, in males anyway, but still it suggests a target market of people more gullible (and desperate) than the medical community.

then there's "according to the statements of many cured patients". and "the patient is cured permanently of sleep apnea". I should think news of that magnitude would be widespread.

again, I haven't looked: do they site any scientific studies to support their claims? regulatory approvals?

I don't remember what it was we were talking about but my doc's response seems to apply here: if it was that efficacious the pharmaceutical companies and medical providers would be all over it.

that's my cynical kneejerk reaction. I think I'll wait for more info before following up.
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RE: Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
Will that work for people who don't have an issue with the lower jaw being too short?

The other things about surgeries is that they are not always successful (CPAP is still needed afterwards, although the pressure may be lowered), they have a very difficult and long recovery, and they can leave you with permanent problems swallowing.
Sleepster

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RE: Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
The procedure is Sliding Genioplasty and more of an esthetic enhancement use to correct facial defects than a specific OSA cure. You can check out the procedure in Pubmed ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29103835/.

A friend of mine in Switzerland says he is somewhat peculiar, little known among his peers, comparatively expensive, and is more about the esthetics of larger jawlines than a normal plastic surgeon.

Unless you like watches, chocolates, and skiing, it is far cheaper to have the procedure performed domestically rather than in Switzerland.
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
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RE: Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
Not to mention that Dr. Seiler cashes nearly one hundred thousands Swiss Francs ...
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RE: Has any heard of this?? It seems unlikely to work… https://www.schlafapnoe.com/en/tre
Abstracts say MAY help, huhh.
In the add for the surgery the second picture has a smaller tongue to make it look better.
Antone for three card Monty?
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