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Intermittent desaturations during sleep
#11
RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
(05-30-2021, 08:47 AM)Ratchick Wrote: This is Viatom/Wellue data yeah? You can also import this into OSCAR, if you want to (as an aside).

I actually asked Viatom about this: ODI is the number of oxygen drops that you have per hour at a specific percent. So ODI 3% is the number of drops in an hour of at least 3 percent from your baseline SpO2 measurement. Most often, this drop is required to happen within a specific time frame (such as 8 seconds), but Viatom's software seems to measure all of them, no matter how long they last.

I would definitely recommend turning OFF the vibration warning for now - at least to get an idea of if the drops would actually turn into anything problematic, or if they are just the occasional spike.  With pretty much 100% of your time spent between 90 and 100%, and your average being at 94, that's not particularly worrisome.

Yes, I'm using the Wellue 02Ring. How do I import to OSCAR?

I have the vibration set to very low and do not notice it.
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
In OSCAR, got to Data > Import Viatom/Wellue Data.  You then navigate to the directory on your PC that contains your oximetry data and select the date or date range to import.
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
Red's already told you how to import it (there will probably be some delay between an apnea and the desaturation showing on the chart, just be aware of that, it takes a while for the oxygen to drop in your bloodstream).

The thing about the vibration is that it's effectively acting to manually rouse you to wake up enough to start breathing again... which is exactly what happens during an apnea/RERA and is often a big part of why people are so tired while untreated. So while yes, it improves your overall oxygen levels potentially, it's still disrupting your sleep. And, at least at first, it's probably better to get an uninterrupted recording to see what happens if the ring doesn't vibrate.


See my comparison of Viatom/Wellue and CMS50F oximeters here.

Not a doctor, definitely not your doctor, all advice is given as-is and represents simply my own understanding as a fellow patient and OSCAR user.
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
(05-31-2021, 01:39 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: In OSCAR, got to Data > Import Viatom/Wellue Data.  You then navigate to the directory on your PC that contains your oximetry data and select the date or date range to import.

Getting the following error message when following your instructions:

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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
Your Wellue data won't be in the FlashAir directory, which is probably your CPAP data. Open the Options feature in your O2 Insight Pro program and look at the Data Location listing, for the path to the Wellue data. The data itself will be in a directory named after your device's serial number. The file names use Year Month Day Hour Seconds. A file that was started on June 1, 2021, at 11:15:30PM will be named, 20210601231530.
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
(06-02-2021, 05:07 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: Your Wellue data won't be in the FlashAir directory, which is probably your CPAP data.    Open the Options feature in your O2 Insight Pro program and look at the Data Location listing, for the path to the Wellue data.  The data itself will be in a directory named after your device's serial number.  The file names use Year Month Day Hour Seconds.  A file that was started on June 1, 2021, at 11:15:30PM will be named, 20210601231530.

There is no Data Location listing in Options, only fields to put in weight, height, etc.
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
Ever since I got my second vaccination I've lost my physic ability. What O/S are you using?
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
(06-02-2021, 05:39 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: Ever since I got my second vaccination I've lost my physic ability.   What O/S are you using?

Sorry, mac OS.

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#19
RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
OK here is the snippet from the Viatom Wiki:
Quote:The downloaded session files will be stored in /Users/YourUserNameHere/Library/Containers/com.viatom.O2PCViewer-BLE/Data/Library/Application Support/O2_Insight_Pro/DATA/SerlalNumber.

The "Library" folder is hidden by default, but you can still reach it by pressing cmd-shift-G and entering "~/Library" in the file selection dialog.

This is from a member that had the same problem.  He added this after using the steps above:
Quote:You have to go to the menu all the way too left of the screen “Apple icon, File, View, Data, Help.

Select Data select Import Viatom Data it brings you right to the folder with the serial number that is on the back of your device, hit open.

Since I'm not a Mac-ie, the above is Greek to me.  Big Grin

- Red
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RE: Intermittent desaturations during sleep
(06-02-2021, 05:51 PM)Crimson Nape Wrote: OK here is the snippet from the Viatom Wiki:
Quote:The downloaded session files will be stored in /Users/YourUserNameHere/Library/Containers/com.viatom.O2PCViewer-BLE/Data/Library/Application Support/O2_Insight_Pro/DATA/SerlalNumber.

The "Library" folder is hidden by default, but you can still reach it by pressing cmd-shift-G and entering "~/Library" in the file selection dialog.

This is from a member that had the same problem.  He added this after using the steps above:
Quote:You have to go to the menu all the way too left of the screen “Apple icon, File, View, Data, Help.

Select Data select Import Viatom Data it brings you right to the folder with the serial number that is on the back of your device, hit open.

Since I'm not a Mac-ie, the above is Greek to me.  Big Grin

- Red

Thanks. I found the folder with the serial #. I just don't have a clue of what to do now to import the data to OSCAR as there were no instructions going forward. Click on the right side of OSCAR where it says Oximetry??
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